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Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama's citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9

There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.

A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.

The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.

What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; imom; kenya; kenyan; muslim; mysteryman; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; presidiot9; thenew911truthers
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To: Star Traveler

This is the first time I’ve seen it, so thanks!!!


201 posted on 08/01/2009 3:46:01 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The DNC and RNC will determine who represents them. But, the states are the ones who say who goes on the state ballot...

And hence... that’s why when you enact a state law that requires a candidate to produce his birth certificate... he will produce it — or else he won’t be on the ballot in that state.

So, he might be the RNC or the DNC candidate — but his name won’t be on the ballot in that state... LOL...


202 posted on 08/01/2009 3:46:43 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
He will when you make it a state law

No he will or his polls will be down under Clinton's septic tank

203 posted on 08/01/2009 3:47:36 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: netmilsmom

Ahhh..... another one! Glad to hear it...

You see what I’m getting here... in regards to enacting such a law..

I’ve gotten this *same thing* (all the hassles) on every single thread I’ve posted this on, since the time of the election... LOL...

BUT... I’m not giving up and I’m still doing it... :-)


204 posted on 08/01/2009 3:48:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
You’re a laugh-a-minute around here... LOL...

Why thank you!

I won't post what others have told me you are....(_*_)

205 posted on 08/01/2009 3:48:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I saw what “politics” did with the birth certificate issue in the last election — Obama got elected...

Now, I prefer *legal action* — because I’ve seen that “politics” doesn’t work...

Are you going to work for that state law now?


206 posted on 08/01/2009 3:49:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Well... I would avoid listening to those imbeciles.... if I were you... :-)


207 posted on 08/01/2009 3:50:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: STE=Q

I’m bored today so I thought I’d entertain myself beating up on a moronic troll :)


208 posted on 08/01/2009 3:51:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: MHGinTN
So you think it’s time to post the evidence of your deciets again. Okay, just keep spittling on and I shall do just that.

The real scoop behind Star Traveler ;)


209 posted on 08/01/2009 3:51:17 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m really surprised at the Daily News. To say we don’t have our feet on any soil—in other words, that we are not loyal to America. They are usually not this crazy.


210 posted on 08/01/2009 3:51:37 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Star Traveler

all:

Over and over and over you post the same message:

“THEY SHOULD PASS SOME SORT OF LAW THAT WILL PREVENT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE PROBLEM NEXT ELECTION” bla bla bla!... FINE, GREAT IDEA — NO ONE BUT NO ONE DISAGREES!— WHY DON’T YOU DO IT OR START A THREAD OF YOUR OWN ON THE IDEA?

INSTEAD YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD LOCANIC MEANS?

%$()*(&^ STE=Q


211 posted on 08/01/2009 3:52:02 PM PDT by STE=Q
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Now I know you can’t follow threads... Maybe someone else can help you out... :-)

[ hint... just click the links and follow the “con-ver-sa-tion” LOL... ]


212 posted on 08/01/2009 3:53:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
He lied, is lying, the people who claim to have vetted him ON OUR BEHALF lied, and are still lying, the sycophant leftist Communist media lied and is lying, and their contempt for America and Americans in perpetuating this charade is obvious. From Honest Abe:

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

213 posted on 08/01/2009 3:53:56 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: STE=Q

I just heard from someone who said they had not heard of this idea before, and that’s how people hear about it... posting right here...

And that’s what I intend to do — for a *solution* — to the Obama Birth Certificate issue...


214 posted on 08/01/2009 3:54:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Here’s the problem with what you’re saying:

“The state law is exactly what I am posting about...”

Where is the state law affirming the 1st amendment, the 2nd, etc.? Above all law is the Constitution, and it is considered law, not just Federally, but also on a local, state level. This point has been decided by USSC.

It is not necessary for the several states to individually address each point of the Constitution by separate statute.


215 posted on 08/01/2009 3:54:53 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: presidio9
The original Birthers.


216 posted on 08/01/2009 3:55:02 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Star Traveler

Like I said, voting laws have worked so well. Not. The PEOPLE need to be heard.


217 posted on 08/01/2009 3:55:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: presidio9

Major media anchors and commentators could not be reached for comment because they all have their lips stuck on Obama’s hindquarters.

However they are quite certain there is nothing to the story as they did research Obama’s background in detail by digging through all of the dumpsters in Wasilla, Alaska.


218 posted on 08/01/2009 3:55:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Win the War On Poverty - Stop bringing in foreign reinforcements for the other side.)
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To: Star Traveler
The states are assured by the parties that the candidates are qualified. That what the statements are for. Please get more info before trying to debate this.

I REALLY have other things to do. Have a pleasant day.

219 posted on 08/01/2009 3:57:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: perchprism

You said — It is not necessary for the several states to individually address each point of the Constitution by separate statute.

The issue has been addressed by the states already, per the Constitution and it has been addressed by the State of Hawaii, too — per the Constitution. The problem is not that — it’s that people want to see the “birth certificate” — and *that* has not been addressed by either the Constitution or the states...

And here’s the Constitution for you...., the *basics* of the Constitution on this issue...

And yes, there is a Constitution and here is what it says, in regards to qualifications. The Constitution says that a candidate must be the following in order to qualify for the office. The candidate must ...

*be* 35 years or older
*be* a resident 14 years or more
*be* a natural born citizen

And Obama has sworn under oath that he *is* (as the Constitution says he must *be*)...

It does not say what is necessary to show it, prove it or what any means for “vetting” is. That’s up to the states themselves to vet and make sure that the candidates meet the qualifications.

And what they have done is sworn an oath that they are qualified..., Obama has, the other candidates have and they have in the past...

And in addition the State of Hawaii says that he *is* exactly what the Constitution says he must *be*...

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‘i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

This shows that there is no Constitutional issue or question. So, when there is no Constitutional issue at problem here with the Qualifications for office, why would the Supreme Court get involved? Which is why they didn’t get involved.

And if you want to get Obama to show his birth certificate, you’re going to have to get a state law to that effect, which is what I’ve been proposing since the election.

But aside from the birth certificate issue, there is plenty of political issues to deal with, in terms of conservatives opposing Marxist/liberal/leftist policies, legislation and agendas.

However, I still push for the state law to enact legislation to require a candidate to show his birth certificate or else he cannot be on the ballot in that state...


220 posted on 08/01/2009 3:57:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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