I thought Zero was a coke, dude...
Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9
There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.
A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.
The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.
What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.
Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.
That doesn't disturb you?
He made a great show of promising "transparency". Then let him be the one to bring forth all the mysterious documents that many are requesting, both a certified copy of the long form original birth certificate, the amended birth certificate of his adoption by LOLO Soetero, etc etc. Failure to do so undermines confidence in him. A man of honor, as a President needs to be, would have produced it long ago.
Also, failure to do so displays a contempt for the American people and for this nation.
I believe in it.
I also believe OK will be the one to do it.
Anybody have the polls showing how many Democrats believe 9/11 was orchestrated by President Bush? I thought that was something like a paltry 33%?
Where is our version of the Michael Moore movie debunking the the BC issue?
Or how about GWB being able to control the weather with his weather machine?
C’mon their going to need more than 12% belief in the BC issue to call it a true conspiracy that threatens to undermine the nation.
Name one poster who is against that
That’s because you started a “flame fest”... LOL...
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“Get fitted for new offical zero kneepads today, did ya?”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304850/posts?page=170#170
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I havent seen anything as looney as you since the dude on June 4, 1967 laying in the gutter at Haight and Masonic beating his head against the curb.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304850/posts?page=183#183
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Ah, you admit you went to get another pair, eh?
I’m sure you wore the first set out, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304850/posts?page=183#183
Whenn you go insane... that’s all ya got left... LOL...
Specifically, who is against this? Can you provide a link?
Have you started talking to me again... now after you said to not talk to you... LOL...
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You said — Name one poster who is against that
We don’t need any new laws. Just enforce the ones on the books.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306118/posts?page=26#26
You apparently don’t know what’s going on with this issue... :-)
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You said — Specifically, who is against this? Can you provide a link?
We don’t need any new laws. Just enforce the ones on the books.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306118/posts?page=26#26
Apparently, you don’t know what’s going on with this issue, either... :-)
mmmwhaaa?
Birth of a Nation was Woodrow Wilson’s favorite movie. Woodrow was an Ivy Leaguer and a Democrat.
If this is all a fringe movement of cranks with no support and no factual basis, why is the pro-Obama press so alarmed about it?
This shows that there is no Constitutional issue or question. So, when there is no Constitutional issue at problem here with the Qualifications for office, why would the Supreme Court get involved? Which is why they didn’t get involved.
By Barack Hussein Obama's own admission his father was KENYAN! IF THE VITAL RECORD shows Barack Hussein Obama's father as KENYAN he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! It's a shame that we have Mr Transparency acting stupidly and cannot figure out why people will not let this issue die.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino should be shown the defintion of "Natural Born Citizen." After seeing the definition she should be given the opportuntity to correct her statement. Either Barack is lying about his Kenyan father or Dr. Fukino made a false statement about Barack's natural born status.
I’m *sincerely* hoping so... and I’m working on it, too..
Believe it or not... just posting about this law over and over again... is raising the awareness of a lot of FReepers... I’m confident of it...
[... sure I know it’s tiring, but you know... FReepers just stumble across these postings and don’t see them before. I get people all the time who see it for the first time... so I’m going to keep it up... plus work on it in Oklahoma...]
Here's PROOF, right there in YOUR Constitution.
I'm going to post this so that EVERYONE who thinks we are powerless to do something about this understands how best to go about it. We need to find the legal remedy enabling us to charge our representatives with disobeying their oaths of office and start removing them one by one. Here is the case.
Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:
" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”
Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19
TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES
Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “
Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:
” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:
The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.
The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.
There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.
” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. In fact, without establishing whether or not the President elect is "qualified", Congress would not know whether or not to step in and name a temporary replacement as the Amendment requires. Certainly, this means that the proof of "qualifications" must be presented to Congress.
If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?
If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.
Based upon the above, I conclude that:
1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.
2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.
3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.
C'mon deceiver, wheres the proof of your accusation?
Can you address a simple question or is it too much for you?
I thought Zero was a coke, dude...
So you think it’s time to post the evidence of your deciets again. Okay, just keep spittling on and I shall do just that.
No trust is involved in a state law that requires the birth certificate... it’s just a “procedure” that is mandated under law.. and that’s the beauty of it... you don’t have to “trust”...
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