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Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama's citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9

There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.

A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.

The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.

What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; imom; kenya; kenyan; muslim; mysteryman; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; presidiot9; thenew911truthers
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To: GoldStandard
Actually Obama is getting outed. Someone who lies consistently on little things, will lie in the big ones. A pathological liar is a very sick individual, and as such, he is also dangerous. One trait, they have is making up a reality for themselves. Another is that they often have no loyalty. what does that say to you?
121 posted on 08/01/2009 2:57:57 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Star Traveler

STOP PIMPING FOR OBAMA!

Because that is EXACTLY what you are doing when you DEFEND his position!

And you have NO IDEA what I am doing!

And since I’m a ‘natural born citizen’ then I guess I’m not ‘required’ to tell you!

Just like your PAL Odumbo!

Your constant ‘Obama is a citizen’ SPAM is getting tiring.

I think you need a new ‘hobby’.

I hear Zeyala is looking for supporters!

You’d fit right in!


122 posted on 08/01/2009 2:57:59 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Star Traveler; All
This is the kind of *insanity* that has infected some people

Bbbwwwaaaaahhaaaaa, I'm infected with insanity?? Does this ring any bells:

To: Star Traveler

The personal attacks will stop now or you can find another galaxy to troll, duuuuuuuuude. Your choice and I await your response.

239 posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:30:08 PM by Admin Moderator [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 232 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

FR thread

123 posted on 08/01/2009 2:58:01 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: All; Star Traveler

AGREED!

The DAILY KOS? aka Soros, Acorn, etc., taking a “poll”...very funny....

They “debunked” themselves years ago.

Whoever cedes objective reasoning to the above are encased in tin foil.


124 posted on 08/01/2009 2:58:54 PM PDT by Altera (See, "Acting Stupidly for Dummies, by B. H. Obama & Rev. J. Wright))
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To: Jim Noble

You mean that with all the times that posters have shown the IRS filing for since the election gotten via FOIA that you still want to play that game of ‘show me’? The main law firm of these cases is even named as “’something’ and Coie”. Man, some people are so dead set to endorse this lying affirmative action figurte that they will refuse to see what is presented over and over! And if you think the more than $600,000 paid to that particular firm since 2009 started is not for representation in the suits, then why is that firm the one named as representing Barry?


125 posted on 08/01/2009 3:00:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: LucyT; null and void; mojitojoe

Ping a ling a ling


126 posted on 08/01/2009 3:00:19 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: presidio9; P-Marlowe; enat; pissant; Jim Robinson
And I beleve 95% of all American's would not suspect that his SAT Scores

CertifiGate Revisited (yet again)

Anyone who thinks this is about the possibility that obama was born in Kenya is misreading most of those I've talked to. The Original CertifiGate is about demanding openness from a president who promised transparency. Stop the idiotic secrecy over something so basic as a birth certificate.

If folks then speculate why he won't release such an easy to release document, then that's all it is...speculation. But the CAUSE of the speculation is the unnecessary secrecy and not the other way around. In fact, the speculation can be killed by the end of the unncessary secrecy.

Pres. Bush released his SAT scores. Obama has not. Verbally he has stated what they were, but he hasn't released the actual papers.

Nor has he released his long form birth certificate.

Nor his selective service papers.

Nor the passport he used in 1981 to travel to Pakistan. Nor his LSAT scores, nor...nor...nor....

127 posted on 08/01/2009 3:02:15 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: Star Traveler
If they were, they would know that all it takes to make a candidate show his birth certificate, is to get a state law enacted to that effect... :-)

I saw that thread, not sure who came up with the idea, but its a great one, and one that needn't have all the conspiratorial angst connected to it.

128 posted on 08/01/2009 3:02:22 PM PDT by Paradox (Obama - Harvard = Sharpton {thanks to sfvgto})
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To: Star Traveler

How is your lying working out for you these days? Do I need to post the evidence of your deceits, again?


129 posted on 08/01/2009 3:03:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Star Traveler
Someone who is able to facilely lie under oath, even if just suspected of it, yep that's who we want as our President.

Narcicistic, pathological, histrionic (notice all the drama)no loyalty to anyone or anything...

130 posted on 08/01/2009 3:04:46 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

That’s who is there... now the next question is — do you want to get the birth certificate?


131 posted on 08/01/2009 3:05:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Jim Noble
You have no idea what that money was spent for. Show me the bills, and I'll consider it.

Well, somebody is paying the lawyers fighting the suits brought by Berg, Keyes and the growing number of retired military officers.

132 posted on 08/01/2009 3:06:34 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: presidio9
Funny how we're all crazy for asking for proof of natural citizenship out of our President, but then we were crazy for thinking Dan Rather's "Killian Memo" was phony. Funny, too, how GW's ANG service was questioned relentlessly by the MSM. Remember the phrase, "it's the seriousness of the charges"? I guess our charges aren't serious enough.

</puking sarcasm>

133 posted on 08/01/2009 3:08:31 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: presidio9
"The only thing weirder than the Birthers are the anti-Birthers, who blame the Birthers for being conspiracy theorists yet actively feed the conspiracy by refusing to call for President Obama to release his birth certificate.

The state official in Hawaii who manages such things has reiterated that there is indeed an original birth certificate on file which would confirm President Obama's having been born in Hawaii and that she has seen it, but state law won't allow her to release it unless the president authorizes it.

So what's the problem here? Release the original and let's be done with this madness."

Mark Joseph, The Huffington Post, July 30, 2009

134 posted on 08/01/2009 3:09:20 PM PDT by trueamerica
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To: MHGinTN

Well, everyone can see that it’s *obvious* that there is *no legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate — or — it would have been done by now.

It is about a year later, after everyone was asking for it. That’s plenty of time for a court to enforce a law about a birth certificate — if — one existed (which could be the reason why no court ever could enforce it.. huh?).

And then it doesn’t take a “rocket scientist” to figure out that if you don’t have a law requiring the birth certificate to be shown — you make a law to that effect... LOL...

And lastly — you go to your state and get that law through the legislature and get it done...

BUT... that appears to be too much for you to figure out... LOL...


135 posted on 08/01/2009 3:09:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: trueamerica

Yep!

And this ‘right wing conspiracy’ was actually started by the ‘left wing’.

It was Hillary’s supporters who originally brought up this issue of the COLB!


136 posted on 08/01/2009 3:11:13 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: All
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137 posted on 08/01/2009 3:11:13 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: Paradox

You said — I saw that thread, not sure who came up with the idea, but its a great one, and one that needn’t have all the conspiratorial angst connected to it.

Well, I’ll claim to be the first and *most consistent* here on Free Republic to do that. I did it from the time of the election on post after post after post... and it’s amazing that there were FReepers who have been consistently against that idea... (I think some people actually *went insane* on November 5th...).

Now, if anyone did it before me, I never saw it. And if anyone has been promoting it more than me... I would like to know who, because we need to organize this movement... :-)


138 posted on 08/01/2009 3:12:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: afnamvet
Obama, Jr. (Barry Soetoro) would have been be a “NBC” if Obama, Sr. had been a Green Card Holder having Permanent Resident Status and as we well know Stanley Ann Dunham was an American Citizen. Obama Sr. NEVER held Permanent Resident Status in the United States.
139 posted on 08/01/2009 3:13:35 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Altera

Glad you see that a state law would be a good solution... now perhaps you can help convince other FReepers who seem to *always fight against* a state law like that...


140 posted on 08/01/2009 3:13:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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