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This post is long but it does a good job of putting the disparate pieces of this story together.
1 posted on 07/28/2009 7:42:02 PM PDT by ckilmer
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Wow, long read, but worth the time.

It changes none of my opinions, but does certainly call into question the Hawaiian records and their care and especially the “staff” statements.

The passport intrusion and death of a witness who was helping the authorities, seems not to have been solved or a murderer caught.

I bet this information makes it's way into history books as this story is retold.

32 posted on 07/28/2009 8:25:31 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: ImaTexan

PIng


34 posted on 07/28/2009 8:27:57 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: ckilmer

Ping for later


35 posted on 07/28/2009 8:28:18 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: ckilmer

This is one of the best pieces of analysis and fact that I’ve yet seen on the Obama birth certificate issue. Bookmarking for future reference.


36 posted on 07/28/2009 8:28:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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The irresponsible confirmation in the Senate of the irresponsible tallying of votes in the Electoral College does not supersede the clear meaning of Article II, Section 1.

If it is allowed to stand, disregard of the Constitution by all branches of the government would be openly established. To all who believe that the Constitution is the government’s basic law, that the Constitution is the only instrument that gives the enactments of Congress and the commands of the Executive validity, it will be clear that the rule of law in the United States is a fiction.

This sums up why this issue is not "dead", "irrelevant", "fringe" or "crank."

Sadly, disregard of the Constitution by all branches of the government is already openly established. And, the rule of law in the US is a fiction a la a Chrysler, GM, AIG, etc....

37 posted on 07/28/2009 8:29:33 PM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: ckilmer

One mistake by the forgers they put 1961 when it should have been just 61.


44 posted on 07/28/2009 8:37:00 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: ckilmer

bttt


50 posted on 07/28/2009 8:43:41 PM PDT by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: ckilmer

Good report and THANK YOU!


56 posted on 07/28/2009 8:47:45 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. God help us.)
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To: ckilmer; Star Traveler

This is the report I referenced on the other thread.

Please take the time to read it all.

Thanks ckilmer.


68 posted on 07/28/2009 9:02:50 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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bump


69 posted on 07/28/2009 9:04:39 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: BARLF

mark


71 posted on 07/28/2009 9:08:06 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: ckilmer
I'm not particularly happy with WorldNetDaily as a source, but this makes perfect sense:

On July 27, 2009 Janice Okubo told WorldNetDaily, “I am not aware of any birth certificate records that have been destroyed by the department. When the department went electronic in 2001, vital records, whether in paper form or any other form, [were] maintained. We don’t destroy records. Any records that we had in paper or any other form before 2001 are still in file within the department. We have not destroyed any vital statistics records that we have.”

I believe it. Why on earth would they destroy the original documents?

Which directly contradicts this, from the editors of National Review, posted July 28:

The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

The notion that "there is no secondary document" is simply false. The COLB itself is a secondary document, as is the computerized state record that is used to create each COLB. The primary document is the original Certificate of Live Birth, or Certificate of Delayed Birth, or another member of the rather extensive line of Hawaiian birth documents.

If the quote from Janice Okubo is accurate, then Obama's primary birth documents probably still exist, "cloaked in darkness" in a folder in a file cabinet. And we still haven't seen them.

72 posted on 07/28/2009 9:08:58 PM PDT by TChad
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Fire is being played with in this country; shame on those who do not respect the average American.
Do not pity those who attempt to trample the Constitution.

Washington D.C. is in the end phases of making some more equal than others; trying desperately to make this great country into a communist nation. I welcome the fall of "democracy" so a republic can once again rise.

My only prayer is that I can witness and participate in it in short order. Enough of the Federal Government and its tentacles into State's Rights. Votes first, guns later when they don't want to heed our vote.

77 posted on 07/28/2009 9:17:13 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (When, America?)
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To: ckilmer

Long legged mack daddy ping for later.


79 posted on 07/28/2009 9:20:00 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Fill your hands you sons of bitches!)
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To: ckilmer

At this point I would have had to have been there at the actual birth to believe anything...


80 posted on 07/28/2009 9:25:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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One question, and I’m sorry if it has been covered prior to my asking. Is there only one COLB form for Hawaii or is there a separate COLB for children born on foreign soil to Hawaiian residents?

If both instances use the same COLB, would that COLB state the actual foreign place of birth or would it state the Hawaiian residence of the parents in the places of the document that read “island of birth” and “city of birth”?


82 posted on 07/28/2009 9:36:47 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: ckilmer

Good work. Bravo!


85 posted on 07/28/2009 9:45:14 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: ckilmer

This is a bombshell report. Joseph Farah of WND owns westernjournalism.com.


87 posted on 07/28/2009 9:52:28 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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Fraud-in-Chief bump.


88 posted on 07/28/2009 9:52:34 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: ckilmer

This is The Holy Grail!


91 posted on 07/28/2009 10:01:11 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great Presidenecordst George W. Bush!!)
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