Posted on 07/28/2009 9:43:04 AM PDT by MindBender26
Behind the scenes, at many military bases across the country and around the world, a not-too quiet challenge is developing against Barack Obama and his questionable qualifications to be President of the United States.
Most FReepers are familiar with the ongoing civil litigation against Obama. Plaintiffs claim he is not constitutionally qualified to be president because he does not meet the legal description of a “natural-born citizen.”
Obama’s lawyers have never entered pleadings on the MERITS of the plaintiffs’ cases. They oppose the plaintiffs’ suits on the issue of “standing.” They claim the plaintiff’s do not have a right to sue. Generally, that “standing” claim is well-founded. Giving every citizen the right to sue the president would be a nightmare. Can you imagine George Bush defending 10,000,000 individual suits by Dems over the war in Iraq?
But recently, one plaintiff had a strong chance of being given “standing to sue.” The plaintiff was an Army Reserve Major, Stefan Frederick Cook, from the Tampa area. His call-up to active duty positioned him as a person who could demonstrate the likelihood of real damages if Obama was not a legally-elected president. Cook could be killed, wounded or even charged as a war criminal if Obama was not legally the president.
He sued, claiming Obama was not legally qualified to be President, not legally qualified to order him to do anything.
The judge was set to begin preliminary hearings when the government lawyers dropped a legal bomb. They canceled Maj. Cook’s orders for the obvious purpose of denying him standing. With Major Cook longer on activation orders, the case was moot and was dismissed by the judge.
This hugely significant legal surrender by the government was noticed by every lawyer in the country watching this issue. It also immediately became an enormous topic of conversation in every barracks in America. If Obama was willing to cancel one soldier’s deployment orders because of a court challenge to his right to be president, what would he do the next time someone raised the issue?
As a result, service members and lawyers began action immediately. It is believed that as many as 100 lawyers are preparing to file litigation such as Maj. Cook’s. This litigation would be in many courts across the country and put a huge strain on the Obama-DNC legal team. Do they cancel 100 sets of orders this week, only to face 1000 suits next week?
Even worse, sources close to some of the potential litigants tell me that at least four lawyers, including one very well known conservative Vietnam veteran-lawyer, are seeking enough clients so they can petition the court for the establishment of a Class of Plaintiffs in a proposed class action case. If that happens, then every military service member on orders for SWA would be covered.
At that point, Obama has no viable legal option. He has proven himself unwilling to try the case on its merits, and willing to cancel orders to avoid having to face discovery. How can he be POTUS and CINC if he cannot issue orders to the military he claims to command?
From there, every time Obama tries to act under color of law in any matter, military of not, someone sues and Obama’s action ceases.
This is an important turning point in a case of incredible constitutional and legal significance.
I wouldn’t go to Donofrio for sources.
I know where to go to read the law. I don’t have to look to Junk Sources.
The Obamas WERE NOT LEGALLY MARRIED IN THE US. THEY COULD NOT BE LEGALLY MARRIED IN THE US.
Really, do you not understand about Bigamy?
Donofrio apparently didn’t have a clue because didn’t he go on about Obama having UK citizenship? He couldn’t have had UK citizenship if born in the US. Do you understand why? No UK citizenship unless Ann went to Kenya and had a customary marriage OR Obama was born in Kenya.
MY source? A UK governmental website AND Kenyan laws dug up from their governmental Website.
TRY IT IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME.
Did Donofrio even understand that Kenya did not recognize a mix of customary marriage and statutory marriage? So Obama was not married to Ann in the eyes of the US Law OR the Kenyan/UK law.
As for the 14th Amendment...I just can’t believe you think that..especially if you are a lawyer. It is ludicrious.
Read Wong.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html
Yes.
Not so fast. Simply being born in Hawaii isn’t enough to meet presidential requirements. He has to be a “natural born” U.S. citizen, not just a U.S. citizen.
If you take an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution, you have to defend it all, or not at all.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Ithink Bill O. is getting too old.
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.
In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
Obama's British citizenship was short-lived. On Dec. 12, 1963, Kenya formally gained its independence from the United Kingdom. Chapter VI, Section 87 of the Kenyan Constitution specifies that:
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963...
2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963.
As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama's father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama's father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963.
Again you are missing the LEGITIMACY REQUIREMENT.
I found a great pdf file explaining all of it and the history somewhere and I think it was on this site.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk
Just like people fall short on the US out of wedlock issue..you are falling short on the UK.
Maybe I should put these in my profile instead of having to go over this again and again and again when people , including the lawyers - ESPECIALLY THE LAWYERS - have not done all the research.
If you have a Ping list for tomorrows update, would you please add me?
BS.
Following legitimate orders implies that the person ordering them is legitimate. Our military is not stupid. They’ve been trained to identify an enemy. They are warriors and they’ve acquired skills as hunters; never the hunted. They’ve watched and listened to the usurper, and they detect disdain and hatred toward something our military is sworn to protect. They’re willing to lay their lives on the line for our Constuitution. It’s just that in this case, it may just be in the courtroom, and not on the battlefield.
I’m certain this is a growing movement.
So you think quite plainly then that Hitler ordered it should have been a defense at Nuremberg?
You perhaps think that the rest of us cannot read what the Supreme Court has actually said as opposed to your specious assertions? If you have some special dispensation to hand out law that the Supreme Court has not please enlighten us. We would all like to know. Don’t save it for later.
Exactly...good post.
Exactly...good post.
There you go, back on marriage again. And you wonder why people keep bringing it up, lol.
Facts in evidence are that the citizenship of Barack Obama, Sr. was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948, he was legally a citizen of the UKC, that his citizenship was legally transmitted to his offspring under that same Act, and that he was legally married to Stanley Ann Dunham, as evidenced by the divorce decree.
There is also the tacit admission of Kenyan citizenship by Barack Obama, II, which could only occur at birth, at which time Kenya belonged to UKC. These are the facts that can be brought to bear on the matter of Constitutional eligibility.
Neither the Constitution, nor the Act governing citizenship of Barack Obama, Sr. and the transmissibility of same, address marriage, at all.
Everything beyond that is unwarranted speculation.
The 14th Ammendment doesn’t say anything about NATURAL Born Citizens.
Since we don't have any woodwards/bernsteins, maybe this is our "Deep Throat" we have been looking for!!
Keep us posted and ping us!!!
I don't think the military personnel are being occupied with the smoke screen of a faked B.C.!
I firmly believe that, for us and in particular for THEM, there are far more damaging evidence kept out of sight for the American people that must be revealed to save the United States of America from being totally destroyed by foreign forces and ideologies that have been planted here!!
For the security of our country and our Constitution, I am pleased that that security is coming from our brave men in the Armed Forces. They are always ready when called upon and we should always Salute them for their sacrifices!!!
Not only dummiecRATZ, but a slew of spineless pubbies as well, sorry!!!
Good luck body!!!
Are you smoking something???
You're darned right.
"Obama’s lawyers have never entered pleadings on the MERITS of the plaintiffs’ cases. They oppose the plaintiffs’ suits on the issue of “standing.”
Isn't it funny that the way he reached elective office was by disqualifying his opponents for some reason or another instead of having an honest toe-to-toe fight with them? Who knows, if he'd run an honest campaign, this dirt would have come out MUCH sooner.
And now it is finally coming out.
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