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Renewed Debate Over Obama’s Birth Certificate
Pajamas Media ^ | July 25 | Bob Owens

Posted on 07/26/2009 9:51:54 AM PDT by AJKauf

Rumors questioning President Barack Obama’s citizenship have been circulating since the first part of 2008, when opponents of the Democratic nominee — including many supporters of Democratic primary candidate and now Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — floated rumors that Obama did not meet the citizenship requirements to become president of the United States as set forth in the Constitution.

These opponents claim Obama is ineligible because he was — they allege — not born in the United States.

Various theories of where President Obama’s birth may have occurred have failed to produce any documentation that suggests he was born overseas. An alleged Kenyan birth figures prominently in one popular theory; a lesser known theory places his birth in Vancouver, British Columbia. Another theory accepts that he was born in Hawaii as a natural born citizen, but then argues that the Indonesian citizenship he gained as a child after moving to be with his mother and stepfather in Indonesia stripped him of his U.S. citizenship because Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship (Indonesian law regarding dual citizenship is irrelevant in the United States).

Last week, a lawsuit filed by a U.S. Army Reserve major questioning Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president gained notoriety for several days when the Army canceled his deployment, prompting his attorney to declare victory in the case. ..

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; article2section1; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; eligibility; hawaii; ineligible; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; usurper
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1 posted on 07/26/2009 9:51:54 AM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

Furture history books will have a chapter entitled, The Kenyan Imposter.


2 posted on 07/26/2009 9:55:34 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: AJKauf

NOW LETS TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF IT TURNS OUT ‘THE ONE’ IS NOT LEGIT!

GET PEOPLE TO QUESTION IT AND ‘INTERESTED PARTIES’ thinking they might get to be president


3 posted on 07/26/2009 9:55:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: AJKauf

I’m less interested in the BC and the place of his birth than I am in the identity of his father, his father’s citizenship, information in his medical records, information in his college applications and transcripts, information on his passport applications, information on post-graduate writings, and on his employment experience.

Just who is this 0bama guy?

The press failed to do their job and now we’re all [including the press] paying a terrible price. The press’ Waterloo. Amen.

I STILL think when we have a conservative in the White House that press conferences should be called with ONLY internet reporters. Let us control the news and sue LAT et al for copying the news. Aholes.


4 posted on 07/26/2009 9:57:13 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: AJKauf
Weren't the RATS the first ones to raise the issue of citizenship as qualification to be President?

Oh, yes. They were.

Only they raised it as it related to John McCain's citizenship.

5 posted on 07/26/2009 9:57:30 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: AJKauf
For the sake of argument, when we refer to "Birth Certificate" we mean "BIRTH CERTIFICATE!"

Barack Obama and the media are currently acting very stupidly. They can't seem to get a grasp on the difference between a certification of live birth and a "birth certiificate."

In case Barack is trolling the thread today, this is what a Hawaii Birth Certificate looks like:

Hawaii Birth

6 posted on 07/26/2009 10:02:22 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Mr. K


7 posted on 07/26/2009 10:03:00 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Principled
I’m less interested in the BC and the place of his birth than I am in the identity of his father, his father’s citizenship, information in his medical records, information in his college applications and transcripts, information on his passport applications, information on post-graduate writings, and on his employment experience.

Yes, we should as a nation demand that all future presidential candidates release ALL Medical Records and ALL College Transcripts.

However, U.S. Passport records would not contain all that much information except for what was on the documentation used in the application process.

8 posted on 07/26/2009 10:08:13 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: AJKauf
I am **steamed** that Obama is not being forced to prove his natural born status.

I am appalled that our judiciary are sooooo morally weak that they simply will not stand up to do what is right. I am disgusted with our representatives across the nation who **ignored** Obama’s qualifications when they had the opportunity to do so. I am infuriated at Rush, Hannity, Medved et al ( and now Ann Coulter) who have the collective gonads of a dust mite.

But...I far more saddened for another reason. Why? Because all of this is a symptom of something far greater.

Our experiment in self-rule rests upon a foundation of moral and honest good will. We now have a very significant portion of the population ( Marxist) who are determined to scam the system. Worse, we have a population of Useful Idiots who are sooooo morally numb that they will follow morally corrupt leaders off a communist cliff. And,...The most serious of all is we don't have conservative with moral and honest guts to fight back!

Yes, we must demand that our states write laws to demand candidates prove they are qualified for the office. Yes, we should attempt to tighten up the rules for who gets on the ballot.

But....Doing all this is like putting a band-aid on a gushing dishonest and immoral hemorrhage.

What will the Marxists think of next? What will our morally weak conservatives choose to ignore next?

The fundamental problem here is national moral dry rot.

For me the epiphany was the 2000 election recount. That is when I realized that Marxists had control of the Democratic Party and would do **anything** to scam a system that can only function with honest good will.

I no longer will have a Marxist or Useful Idiot for a friend. That means **all** Democrats and some Republicans. They are either too stupid or too evil, and maybe both.

9 posted on 07/26/2009 10:08:31 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Principled

I think that the smoking gun is not the birth certificate but after his return to Haiwaii from Indonesia.
I think he went by Barry Soetero and used his foreign passport to get grants, scholarships and all kinds of other goodies.
1. Grandma had access to birh and deah certs.
2. Bogus birth announcement
3. traveled after he was 18 on Indoneasian passport

Regardless, if he had no secrets he would not have spent close to a million dollars keeping us from seeing his school records.
Americans might overlook birth cert. but not fraud and identity theft.


10 posted on 07/26/2009 10:11:11 AM PDT by ODDITHER (HAT)
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To: trumandogz
U.S. Passport records would not contain all that much information except for what was on the documentation used in the application process.

That's more than is on the BC trumandogz. Place of birth and citizenship of the applicant and both parents is some of what I'd like.

11 posted on 07/26/2009 10:12:03 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: trumandogz

Yes, we should as a nation demand that all future presidential candidates release ALL Medical Records and ALL College Transcripts.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah! We should do that.

But...What will the Marxists think up next to scam the system?

Ultimately, it is impossible to write enough laws that are tight enough to coral evil. They will find some other way to scam a system that is built upon the honest good will to make it work.

The fundamental problem here is national moral dry rot.


12 posted on 07/26/2009 10:13:31 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: AJKauf

I just noticed that the black guy who did those rants about Obama(not Pastor Manning) did a Video with the name Pajamas Media on it.

Is he an owner, did they hire him, or what? Does anyone know the story?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL-Oj1rQ-c


13 posted on 07/26/2009 10:18:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Principled

Actually, everyone who is issued a US Passport is an American citizen.


14 posted on 07/26/2009 10:23:00 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: AJKauf
Mike Castle, the NYT, CBS, the various agents vested, will always declare BO as a "citizen." Which is NOT the question, and if those concerned acquiesce then there is no point in the issue.

I believe that Arnold Schwarzenegger can NEVER be President although he IS a citizen.

That fact alone might sink into the shallow egomania of the typical American voter who doesn't care about anything except their own recent auto purchase.

15 posted on 07/26/2009 10:23:09 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: AJKauf

Every thing King Obama says of does is the product of a lie. This lying piece of garbage is never to be believed by any sane person. I really think his birth place is a lie and he was not a natural born American and nothing can change my mind since a committed liar cannot be trusted.


16 posted on 07/26/2009 10:23:10 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: ODDITHER

He traveled to Indonesia for a time to write one of his books.
That is within the last 15 years.

What passport did he travel on to go there for ‘peace & quiet’ while ‘writing’??


17 posted on 07/26/2009 10:24:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: AJKauf

Obama should admit he was born in Kenya. The handwriting is on the wall.

If indeed, it turns out he is not legit. He and his administration should be immediately ousted from office and McCain/Palin should be sworn into office.


18 posted on 07/26/2009 10:36:31 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: trumandogz

“However, U.S. Passport records would not contain all that much information except for what was on the documentation used in the application process. “

What about his mother’s passport records...they should tell the story easily


19 posted on 07/26/2009 10:40:04 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: smalltownslick
What about his mother’s passport records...they should tell the story easily

And what would you expect to see in his mother's passport records?

20 posted on 07/26/2009 10:41:45 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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