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A Dispute Over Obama’s Birth Lives on in the Media
New York Times ^ | July 24, 2009 | Brian Stelter

Posted on 07/25/2009 11:49:46 AM PDT by lbryce

The conspiracy theorists who have claimed for more than a year that President Obama is not a United States citizen have found receptive ears among some mainstream media figures in recent weeks.

Despite ample evidence to the contrary, the country’s most popular talk radio host, Rush Limbaugh, told his listeners on Tuesday that Mr. Obama “has yet to have to prove that he’s a citizen.” Lou Dobbs of CNN said that Mr. Obama should do more to dispel the claims. Larry King, also of CNN, asked guests about it. Chris Matthews debated it with guests on MSNBC, and “NBC Nightly News” even did a segment debunking the theory.

Cable news is often stretched for news in the summer, but the birth certificate case has been fueled by the combustible combination of luck, compelling video, media-savvy doubters — and an outlandish topic.

The theory that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, his father’s homeland, first took root among some staunchly conservative elements. In response, the Obama campaign scanned the candidate’s “certification of live birth” from Hawaii’s department of health and published it on the Internet. Numerous third parties have examined and confirmed the birth certificate and concluded that it met the requirements for citizenship.

“This smear was thoroughly debunked during the election,” said Eric Burns, the president of Media Matters for America, a liberal media monitoring organization.

But advocates of the issue, who are sometimes termed birthers, called attention to themselves through frequent calls to talk radio shows, e-mail messages to news organizations and a videotaped question at a Congressional town hall.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; barrysoetoro; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; bs; certifigate; colb; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; kenya; mainstreammedia; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; newyorktimes; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; usurper
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think the strategy is to saturate this issue with coverage so it drowns in its own noise.


21 posted on 07/25/2009 12:11:26 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: lbryce

No such thing as bad publicity. NYT is giving this issue a big spotlight like this.


22 posted on 07/25/2009 12:11:26 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: lbryce

ROTFLOL!


23 posted on 07/25/2009 12:15:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: lbryce
Pursuing the truth is not racist.

Defending the Constitution itself is not racist.

In fact there are many behaviors exhibited by whites towards minorities that are simply not racist.

24 posted on 07/25/2009 12:16:47 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Bernard Marx

“In other words, it’s a typical NYT hit piece. “

I will laugh until sick if Pinch loses the Times to that Mexican monopolist ;-)


25 posted on 07/25/2009 12:18:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: mc5cents; avacado
Yea, just release the BC! There are so many distortions and bogus excuses in this article.

If he had nothing to hide, he would have released a copy of the Birth Certificate (by 'scanning and publishing' on the internet) rather than the probably falsified COLB that they pawned off as official.

This reminds me of John Kerry and his refusal to sign the Form 180, which have yet to see also.

Meanwhile, now CNN says his long form birth certificate was destroyed in 2001. That's funny, since this directly contradicts Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, who in October, 2008 stated that she and the Registrar of Vital Statistics (who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records) have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” ... hat tip to Freeper avacado

Someone's not telling the truth. The plot thickens?

26 posted on 07/25/2009 12:21:30 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Bernard Marx

Precisely what I had originally intended to post but which I saw as being true about all, every NYT article hardly “printed to fit” nowadays.


27 posted on 07/25/2009 12:23:12 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Right, government doesn’t destroy original documents. If you are searching for one using microfilm and request to see the original, it’s available. Most recent records are kept in files inside the courthouse, or recorder’s office,etc. and the earlier ones are in storage, you fill out a request and someone will go retrieve them for you.


28 posted on 07/25/2009 12:38:00 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Hey Brian, why are you and your ilk afraid to just ask your Master to produce his authenticated birth certificate? Where’s your investigative journalistic instincts?

Yeah, maybe you could get Dan Rather to fab one up for you on Word 98.

29 posted on 07/25/2009 12:42:02 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: lbryce

Until Obama releases his birth certificate, this issue is never going to go away. As his popularity declines, more and more people will come to doubt his eligibility. This is going to add to his political downfall.

When people become afraid of Obama or hate his policies, it will become quite appealing to believe he should never have been elected. “Where is the birth certificate?” is going to be in e-mails, blogs and other viral networks. The MSM will not be able to quell the groundswell.

I don’t have a clue whether or not he is not a natural born citizen. But it won’t really matter politically if he won’t produce the birth certificate. A majority may well come to doubt his eligibility. The Democrats will be in a panic out of fear that there may be proof that he has duped us all and they will have supported a fraud.


30 posted on 07/25/2009 12:51:06 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The MSM equates the “certification of live birth” from Hawaii’s department of health to presenting an ID card when asked for a drivers license during a traffic stop. It’s good enough for them.


31 posted on 07/25/2009 12:53:45 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: 1000 silverlings
And all this time we thought Frank D. Marshall was Zero's Daddy...who would have thunk it!!!


32 posted on 07/25/2009 1:00:39 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: lbryce

the key of course to the article is leaving out natural born,a phrase which it would not surprise me to learn,a substantial portion of voters have no clue about.Thus if it ever came out that6 hes not natural born it will be dismissed in a flurry of hand wringing accompanied by “i never knew!” or,”why make that a law? they weren’t being inclusive.”


33 posted on 07/25/2009 1:02:26 PM PDT by wiggen
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To: Mr. Mojo
They certainly do!

Just in case you and other Freepers missed seeing this video of Lou Dobbs questioning Obama's man it is not to be missed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYcFgXCJrE

34 posted on 07/25/2009 1:08:54 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: Mr. Mojo
They certainly do!

Just in case you and others missed seeing this clip, it is not to be missed! Watch Obama's man get so very upset! Fun right to the end. Is the pressure on?? You Betcha! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYcFgXCJrE

35 posted on 07/25/2009 1:11:46 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: wiggen
Thus if it ever came out that6 hes not natural born it will be dismissed in a flurry of hand wringing by Nancy accompanied by “i never knew!” or,”why make that a law? they weren’t being inclusive.”

There, fixed it.

36 posted on 07/25/2009 1:24:43 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: lbryce
In response, the Obama campaign scanned the candidate’s “certification of live birth” from Hawaii’s department of health and published it on the Internet.

Yep, that proves it alright. Because we all know that nothing is ever Photoshopped first before being posted on the Internet.

37 posted on 07/25/2009 1:34:53 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: lbryce
The theory that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, his father’s homeland, first took root among some staunchly conservative elements.

With the help of an obama relation in Kenya who claimed she was present at his birth there?

38 posted on 07/25/2009 1:35:10 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty is Kitty Genovese. What are you doing?)
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To: lbryce

It may be TOO LATE! There are now some constitutional/legislative “theologians” who say that even IF the DemocRAT votes COULD be found to impeach him, that Obama is legally UNIMPEACHABLE, if in fact he is not a native-born American. They say that, because then he would never have been eligible to hold the office in the first place, and so is NOT the President, and thus CANNOT be impeached! The articles simply would NOT APPLY to him. If so, HOW would he be removed from the White House? Perhaps via an ordinary EVICTION process?


39 posted on 07/25/2009 1:36:32 PM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: lbryce

It’s pretty much becoming the elephant in the room. I just received an email that had nothing to do with politics but it tied in a question about whether he’s even a citizen. It’s getting serious if people from all walks are starting to focus on this.


40 posted on 07/25/2009 1:45:53 PM PDT by kinghorse
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