Posted on 07/21/2009 9:58:29 AM PDT by pissant
"This isn't one of those things that goes away quite as easily as I'd thought," Dobbs says, saying that this isn't the "fringe" and that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate. (He long ago released an official copy, the standard document. As often noted, it actually does go away quite easily.)
"I have no idea what the reality is here," says Dobbs, later wondering, "You suppose he's undoc -- no, I wouldn't use the word 'undocumented,' wouldn't be right."
I definately need to catch up on my liberal lingo...
This ...? I didn’t remember it
http://www.wowowow.com/post/florida-tv-reporter-turns-heat-biden-obama-campaign-fuming-130142
The shit storm is coming anyway...better now than later.
IIRC it was illegal in Indonesian man for a child to live in his home unless he “belonged” to the male head of the household. Therefore, Lolo adopted him by marrying his mother...Think they view things differently there...Actions trump words.
Ain't gonna happen.
Thank you so much—
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Barbara West knew...She was doing her job.. They trashed her.
Biden knows exactly what obuma is about Wests questions were hitting a too close to home.
If a person is ineligible to run for president, is he nevertheless eligible to choose a running mate?
Depend on which cases get heard....Berg lists the DNC, Nanzi, Dean, etc etc as plaintiff.
Others vary.
IMO Berg has the plaintiff list correct.
A well respected constitutional lawyer Dr Edwin Vieira wrote a good article last fall before the election. You can find it here:
Someone needs to send this to Lou Dodd and suggest he have the Vieira on his show.
That article was prior to the election. It is now a done deal, as I sit here tearfully typing. I know the storm is coming and is right around the corner, I just thought we could have prevented it.
With that said, no matter what happens I will accept, as long as the truth comes out. I do believe barry is a usurper, but I haven’t found anything in the Constitution that deals with it.
I don’t think our Founding Fathers had ANY idea that someone would do such a thing!!!!
Oops, spoke too soon; tsk,tsk.
Our founding fathers were honorable men, who knew each other well and more importantly knew who not to trust. A person who is not an American through and through.
IMO BO wasn’t born here, wasn’t educated in his youth here (can’t throw a ball), has no idea about common everyday things. (50) state,
He was raised in a family in which to con folks was praised. IIRC he admits lying to his grandparents was the common rule he lived by. Thinking independantly, antiestablishment thoughts were encouraged. He never learned to respect authority and live by the rules.
With that said, We will survive. If his numbers continue to fall, the time will come when the exposure of his fraud will be welcomed by most and an embarrassment to some.
OTOH I worry for his life, NOT from this side, but from his handlers when he is no longer an asset to them, but a liability who needs to be quieted.
>>Obama.. let us be VERY CLEAR.. HATES the USA...<<
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And he has access to the nuclear football. And yet, no congress critter has enough brass to investigate who Obama really is.
“He needs some time to make it happen.”
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And in the meantime he will need a bunch of bodyguards.
When you play with fire, you must be expected to be burned. I'm sure his "handlers" will find a way to blame us though.
Nope, you spoke too soon back at #105. Cheers
You have no idea what would happen, yet you don’t think Biden would become president?
You said, in part — “... who has yet to irrefutably demonstrate that he was, in
fact, Constitutionally eligible to have even run for, never mind BE president.”
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You’re actually talking about two separate things here. One is qualifications per the Constitution, and then there are policies that he’s going to carry out according to his political stance. I wouldn’t confuse the one with the other. They are separate issues, so when you say that Obama is set on purposely decimating our beloved country — that would be true if he were to give you proof of his qualifications. That would remain unchanged in regards to his political stance. It’s not like “he’s not qualified and he’s going to decimate our country” versus “he’s qualified and he’s going to protect and build up our country with sound policies”. That’s what it sounds like you’re saying.
In regards to what he was required to do to run and hold office, Obama has done the same as the other candidates have done in the past, with simply signing sworn statements, when they get on the ballot in the various states and affirmed that he is qualified. No one has ever been *required by law* to present a birth certificate and that’s why I call it a loophole in the Constitution. It gives the requirements, but it doesn’t say you have to prove it by way of a birth certificate. You can swear to it and be deemed to have met the qualifications, just as the other Presidential Candidates have in the past.
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And then you said — Was that too deranged for you ?
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It’s not deranged to oppose policies, legislation and argue the methodologies that we use for governing ourselves in a rational fashion and try to drum up support for our positions and get our own legislators to vote according to what we think is the right policy or the right bill and so on.
What the Obama Derangement Syndrome consists of is a detachment from reality and not recognizing how Obama has done just the same thing in “qualifying” for the position as any other candidate has. That’s the “deranged part”. And then this derangement gets into other things posted by a variety of poster (who still maintain these things to this day) — some things like, getting tanks to surround the White House and the military demanding that Obama quit as President or they will attack the White House... LOL... (yes, FReepers have put this forth as something that they would promote doing...). Another one who I see popping up again and again, is that all it takes to remove a sitting President is for a judge to issue an order to a U.S. Marshal and have him go into the Oval Office, arrest and handcuff Obama and then ‘perp-walk him” outside and to a jail cell... LOL...
I’ve got to wonder if there are a signficant number of voters who went “insane” when they heard Obama won... :-).
I prefer saner methods, like getting one’s own state legislature to pass legislation requiring a candidate to show documentation to prove his eligibility or else he can’t be on the ballot in the state. That not only sounds like something that is sane, and which is done in the “real world” — but also — something which has the best chance of actually working to *remove* Obama from office.
So, yes, the “Obama Derangement Syndrome” is definitely around, and I think a certain number of people went “certifiable” and “insane” after election day...
“You’re actually talking about two separate things here. One is qualifications per the Constitution, and then there are policies that he’s going to carry out according to his political stance. I wouldn’t confuse the one with the other. They are separate issues, so when you say that Obama is set on purposely decimating our beloved country — that would be true if he were to give you proof of his qualifications. That would remain unchanged in regards to his political stance. It’s not like “he’s not qualified and he’s going to decimate our country” versus “he’s qualified and he’s going to protect and build up our country with sound policies”. That’s what it sounds like you’re saying.”
I think you are trying to separate two things that the Founding Fathers saw as interrelated. Citizenship was required to assure that the President had no conflict of interest and had the best interest of the USA in mind; that he was not a Manchurian Candidate, for example.
What foresight the Founding Fathers had! Given the little that we do know about 0’s background and his reluctance to produce proof that he is a natural born American citizen who has never renounced his citizenship, we have reason to suspect his citizenship and his motives. As Saul Alinsky’s son David said in the Boston Globe last year, 0 appears to be following the Rules for Radicals script to the letter and moving us rapidly towards Marxism.
See #199
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