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Dobbs embraces Birthers
Politico ^ | 7/21/09 | Ben Smith

Posted on 07/21/2009 9:58:29 AM PDT by pissant

"This isn't one of those things that goes away quite as easily as I'd thought," Dobbs says, saying that this isn't the "fringe" and that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate. (He long ago released an official copy, the standard document. As often noted, it actually does go away quite easily.)

"I have no idea what the reality is here," says Dobbs, later wondering, "You suppose he's undoc -- no, I wouldn't use the word 'undocumented,' wouldn't be right."


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To: Star Traveler

Why would you want him to show us his BC if you agree the COLB is legitimate?


101 posted on 07/21/2009 11:28:53 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Tribune7

Are you kidding? We could make mincemeat out of Biden. No racial issues there, just a doofus white guy. Even the liberals would probably join in the fun.


102 posted on 07/21/2009 11:31:43 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: LeoOshkosh

You said — Where will he build his presidential library? Nairobi?

Well, y’all should know the answer to that one... in Chicago, of course..., the next best thing to Nairobi... :-)


103 posted on 07/21/2009 11:31:51 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: surfer

I thought we were talking about Biden and impeachment?


104 posted on 07/21/2009 11:34:15 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
"Why would the whole election be ineligible?"

I now realize that you really are not intelligent enough to answer your own questions. I've always wondered why you incessantly ask stupid questions here. They sound like a four year old asking daddy.

Because election fraud is a felonious crime. Because America cannot condone a wanton criminal in the presidency, and the presidency is not a symbolic office. If you can't understand that, at least stop posting such infantile questions.

105 posted on 07/21/2009 11:35:47 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: pissant

You asked — Why would you want him to show us his BC if you agree the COLB is legitimate?

Well.., you see... that’s where you start going all wrong... LOL... You simply have never followed my posts when I was asking for it to be shown before the election.... :-)

And furthermore, another problem that I see people run into here, and what I have posted as the *big loophole* that is in the Constitution, is that it says that one has to be qualified (per its stated requirements) but there is nothing requiring *exactly what* is required in order to prove it.

And so, the *big loophole* that anyone can take advantage of, is what all the candidates have done all along, in the prior Presidential elections — which is to simply swear and sign paperwork that says you are qualified. And that’s it.

The simple fact of the matter is that Obama has already sworn that he is qualified per the Constitution.

And that’s precisely why that *big loophole* in the Constitution needs to be closed up, as I was saying by passing the state laws to that effect.


106 posted on 07/21/2009 11:36:48 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: cripplecreek

He’ll be in the Oval Office, feet on the desk, taking a nap, picking his nose, all Obama laws rescinded, and the country starting to do well all by itself.


107 posted on 07/21/2009 11:37:07 AM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: pissant
Hawaii high-ranking officials---yes, even the Republican Governor---should be publicly and heavily criticized until they answer the following question concerning the terms "African" and "Negro" used in Hawaii birth certificates:

"Hawaii officials: You say publicly that you have personally seen Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate.

"So, Hawaii officials, is Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate the only one in the history of Hawaii birth certificates where a parent is classified as "African" instead of being classified by the more common term used in 1961 of "Negro"?

"Hawaii officials, if you refuse to tell us why Obama's father is classified on Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate as "African"---you have no reason to hide the information or hide behind privacy laws because Obama has already publicly displayed his short form birth certificate where his Kenyan citizen father is classified as "African"--- then I accuse of you of purposely misleading the American public during the 2008 presidential campaign, and you should face criminal charges.

108 posted on 07/21/2009 11:37:43 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: stuartcr

Jews would riot in the streets of NYC! looting and burning the city!


109 posted on 07/21/2009 11:38:03 AM PDT by ncfool (The GEORGE BUSH revolution has finally arrived in Iran! Where is Obama?)
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To: stuartcr
And who do you think would be in charge until things got straightened out?

Al Haig?

110 posted on 07/21/2009 11:38:20 AM PDT by 386wt (Clinging to my clunker here in Ruralville...)
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To: 386wt

LOL. Good answer


111 posted on 07/21/2009 11:40:48 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: stuartcr

The 20th amendment details what would happen if the President is found to be inelligible to hold office.

According to the Constitution, Biden would act as President until somebody was declared eligible. That “somebody” could be Biden or Pelosi or Hillary or...? In the end, it would be up to congress to find “somebody” to fill the post.


112 posted on 07/21/2009 11:42:29 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: pissant

We are not “birthers”. The name was coined in order to make us appear as nutty as the jerks who think Bush blew up the twin towers.


113 posted on 07/21/2009 11:48:41 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: ncfool

And those blasted Amish would burn hex symbols in effigy all over creation. The rural backroads would be littered with straw and hedgeapples.


114 posted on 07/21/2009 11:50:02 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: stuartcr

You actually think Biden would be worse than Bozo? Once we throw that a**hat out of office Biden would be a lame duck and probably would just set out what is left on the term. Bozo the WH clown will push everything he can through the legislature regardless of what the people want.


115 posted on 07/21/2009 11:50:11 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: patriot08

If Biden is any smart and play his cards right, he could become a highly respected and liked POTUS. History could remember him as a great statesman instead of some never-do-well flunky.

Hey Joe, first thing you should do is to disassociate yourself with the lefty RATs and RINOs and start doing the things that you know will benefit your country. Rescind all laws that Obama pushed through. And don’t repeat those silly words Bush spoke about Islam being a ROP.


116 posted on 07/21/2009 11:53:27 AM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: calex59

That linbe of reasoning is flawed, as you well know: you are pleading that the Constitution be set aside because Biden is an idiot. A more lieberal deceit could not be found ...


117 posted on 07/21/2009 11:53:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pissant; All

Does anyone have a list of instruction/laws implementing Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution regarding qualifications for President.

I have done some research for South Carolina and the wording on the Secretary of State’s site seems to ,at least partly, depend on the Party to ensure candidate qualification. There is nothing about what should be submitted to substantiate that the candidate is qualified.... seems to be sort of an honor code for people without honor. I also remember (December I believe) a statement from the SOS ‘s office that they were considering asking for proof of Sen. Obama’s eligibility.... don’t remember anything else about it.

It seems that the Federal Election Commission would be other agency responsible for verifying qualifications for the candidate, but I seem to recall (on a Lou Dobbs thread) that they did not do this.

I would think the role of the court in this would be two foal, are policies in place to implement the requirements for candidacy and were these policies adhered to. If either/or both were not accomplished then the Court should implement a remedy.


118 posted on 07/21/2009 11:54:07 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: stuartcr

Biden is too stupid to be impeached...lol...I thought it was about Obama and his birth cert...

:)

Biden probably thinks being impeached is some award he would receive from Georgia!


119 posted on 07/21/2009 11:55:46 AM PDT by surfer
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To: Star Traveler

Yes. I fully understand the loophole. I think many people were shocked to learn that not a single state required proof, nor the FEC. So that is why you and “the birthers” agree it should be remedied with legislation, state or federal. And it will eventually.

But that does address the case of Obama, who has been challenged for many, many months prior to the election to prove his NBC status. The best we got was a COLB on Kos/FactCheck/FTS.

The difference is that you have accepted that as legit. Most conservatives have not.

So those “birther” conservatives have brought a multitude of lawsuits, have pressed their congresscritters (do you think ANY movement for verification laws would be in the works if a large segment of conservatives were not up in arms over this?), and are forcing it into the public conversation.

Yet you and others prefer to poo-poo it as being beneath common sense. Well, common sense tells me Hussein is a lying sack of shiite. Common sense tells me that he hasn’t released squat for his college records. Common sense tells me Bill Ayers co-wrote “Dreams”. Common sense tells me Hussein is lying through his f*cking teeth about being unaware of his “mentor”’s inflammatory anti-jew, anti-American rhetoric. Common sense tells me that he makes sh*t up out of thin air (my momma and daddy decided to have me after being inspired by the Selma march). Common sense tells me he is a rank marxist/socialist (New Party member to boot) despite his claims to the contrary. And common sense dictates that he is definitely hiding something surrounding his birth.

And common sense tells me conservatives must fight the marxist SOB on every level, on every front before he causes more damage to our nation and constitution.


120 posted on 07/21/2009 11:56:47 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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