Posted on 07/17/2009 10:59:24 AM PDT by Free America52
Kris Kobach is a law professor with degrees from Harvard, Yale and Oxford, and a veteran of George W. Bushs administration who, after Sept. 11, helped craft the policy on domestic registration of foreign visitors to the United States. In May, he announced a run for Kansas secretary of state, campaigning for photo ID requirements at the voting booth. Hes considered a clear front-runner for the job. But over the weekend, Kobach spoke at a Republican Party barbecue and committed a minor gaffe. According to the Lawrence Journal-World, Kobach asked what President Obama and God had in common, with the punchline being neither has a birth certificate.
Kansas Democrats pounced. While Kris Kobach has in the past associated himself with extremists who frequently show poor taste, said state Democratic Party Executive Director Kenny Johnston, his latest attempt at humor has gone too far. Kobach told the Democrats to lighten up before walking back the comment, explaining that until a court says otherwise, I believe Barack Obama is a natural-born citizen.
Kobach could have offered another defense. The joke was not his. One month earlier, Rush Limbaugh made the same remark on his radio show. Barack Obama has one thing in common with God, Limbaugh said. Know what it is? God does not have a birth certificate either. And Limbaugh may not have been writing his own material, either. At Patriot Depot, a conservative web site that sells books by Glenn Beck and signs designed for anti-tax Tea Parties, buyers can pay $10 to get two bumper stickers that read: Obama & God Have ONLY ONE THING in Common: NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE! The Difference Is God Doesnt Think Hes Obama!According to a salesman for Patriot Depot, the company has sold hundreds of this and another birth certificate sticker since advertising them with the conservative opinion sites GOPUSA.com and Townhall.com.
Six months into Obamas presidency, after scores of embarrassing legal defeats, and even after tussles between the attoneys whove turned frivolous lawsuits about the presidents citizenship into full-time jobs, the cottage industry of conspiracy theories about the presidents birth shows no signs of disappearing. The theories have found a home in talk radio and on conservative web sites such as Free Republic and WorldNetDaily. Conspiracy theorists are increasingly sending letters to their local papers, embarrassing members of Congress at town hall meetings, and hounding Hill staffers about challenges to the presidents citizenship.
I wouldnt consider what Kris Kobach said a gaffe, although it wasnt a prudent comment, said William B. Lacy, director of the Robert J. Dole Institute of Politics at the University of Kansas. Its not at the root of the complaint that conservative [Republicans] have with this administration. In essence, what any Republican is doing by raising that issue is creating his or her own red herring. Kobach is probably okay here, but theres a certain danger, I think, if it becomes something you repeat on a continuous basis.
Theres no indication that the White House is worried about all of this. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs has occasionally called on Lester Kinsolving, a radio host and correspondent for WorldNetDaily, to air the latest theories about the presidents citizenship as a way of defusing tense press briefings. While birthers claim that the presidents lawyers have spent hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars fighting their lawsuits, theyve never provided evidence for that claim. Indeed, most of the suits have been tossed out of court on technicalities.
Ironically, the birther movement began in response to Obamas own efforts to debunk rumors. One year ago this week, the presidential campaign of then-Sen. Barack Obama launched FightTheSmears.com, a web site designed to push back against false rumors about the first African-American presidential nominee. To push back against rumors that he was not born in Hawaii, the campaign reproduced a Certificate of Live Birth from the states Health Department. Instead of terminating the conspiracy theories, that inspired new theories that the certificate had been forged or that even if it hadnt been forged it was the sort of certificate that could be given to someone born outside of the United States. But the certificate is specific about Obamas birth in Honolulu, down to the 7:24 p.m. time.
Its crazy, said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. I dont think anything is ever going to satisfy them.
Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama Birthers that are more like threats, explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obamas campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. If you were born in Bali, for example, Okubo explained, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But its become very clear that it doesnt matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? Its just become an urban legend at this point.
The urban legend has become too pervasive for Republicans to avoid. In February, Rep. Bill Posey (R-Fla.) introduced a much-mocked bill that would require presidential campaigns to provide a copy of the candidates birth certificate. While Posey initially said that he disbelieved conspiracy theories about the presidents birth, he told the host of an Internet radio show that hed discussed the possibility of Obama being removed from office over the eligibility issue with high-ranking members of our Judiciary Committee. As of July 15, nine fellow Republican members of Congress were backing the bill. While Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) has said that he supports the bill because he didnt know whether Obama was a citizen, other sponsors say that they weighed in to pour cold water on the conspiracy theories.
Its a good idea, said John Donnelly, a spokesman for Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.), who became one of the bills co-sponsors this month. If candidates provided that information to the Federal Election Commission you wouldnt have all this hullaballoo. You dont want to needlessly expose presidents to crazy conspiracy theories.
At the state level, birther conspiracy theorists have made headway in getting Republican lawmakers interested in legislation like Poseys. At least four Republican members of Missouris state legislature have looked into introducing a similar bill. State Sen. Randy Brogdon (R-Okla.) who is running for governor of Oklahoma in 2010, said that hed co-sponsor birth certificate legislation if it made it out of the state senate and would definitely sign the bill if he won the governorship.
You bet Id sign it, said Brodgon. I know Id have no problem showing my birth certificate.
The Republicans who appear to be willing to listen to birthers, even to debunk them, have to walk a tightrope. In April, freshman Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) held a town hall meeting at her old high school in Cheyenne, Wyo., and got a question about the presidents citizenship. Lummis challenged the skeptic to please send evidence that the president was not a natural-born citizen. Im not questioning your concern, Lummis said. I am questioning whether there is credible evidence. In early July, a small group of birthers walked the halls of Congress handing grand jury presentments over to the confused front desk assistants of members of Congress; the activists rushed online to report the latest member who had been handed the information. After birthers provided some of their papers to Michael Schwartz, the chief of staff to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), they rushed online to report that Schwartz had been won over to the cause and was about to get in touch with Orly Taitz, a California lawyer who has filed several unsuccessful challenges to the presidents citizenship.
It is possible to mistake politeness for agreement, Schwartz told TWI, and I make every effort to be polite. He did have a brief conversation with Dr. Taitz, but challenged the way online birthers had hyped their contact with Coburns office. An observer would not report it quite like this, said Schwartz.
Taitzs lawsuits and the pressure of conservative talkers like Limbaugh have made it increasingly difficult for Republicans to avoid the birthers. On June 16, after Limbaugh joked about the presidents citizenship, WorldNetDaily editor-in-chief Joseph Farah appeared on the Web-based Recharge Radio to thank the host for spreading the birther message. What that did is beyond Rushs impact, said Farah. It also gives other talk show hosts license to talk about this issue Rush is kind of the standard of talk show hosts. A lot of people emulate what he does. He crossed the Rubicon on that show, and Im very proud of him for doing it.
Farahs instincts have been borne out by conservative media. This week, Taitz represented Maj. Stefan F. Cook, a reservist who volunteered for duty in Afghanistan, then demanded to be released from the commitment unless the president proved that he was a U.S. citizen. I did not volunteer with the intent of becoming a conscientious objector, Cook told TWI in an email. On Wednesday Cooks deployment was cancelled, and a spokesman for Centcom took issue with Taitzs claim, made in a WorldNetDaily story, that this decision verified conspiracy theories about the presidents birth. Later that night, Sean Hannity cited the story on his Fox News show and used Taitzs version of the facts, not Centcoms.
Major Cook and his lawyer expressed joy at this outcome, said Hannity. And they took it as an admission on the part of the military that the president is not in fact a legitimate citizen by birth.
Woof.
Rrrrr-uff!
I love the spin of the headline. Why is it the ‘Birther’ movement dogs the republicans? Should it not, rather, dog Obama, who has spent over a million dollars fighting the simple act of producing a birth certificate? The entire article is upside down. But I guess that’s what happens when we can no longer discern the self-evident.
So he's admitting that no court or legal, controlling authority has ruled on Barry Soetoro's eligiblity.
until a court says otherwise, I believe Barack Obama is a natural-born citizen.
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Au contraire.
Given the lack of documentation on this issue it is MUCH more accurate to believe:
until a court says otherwise, I believe Barack Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen.
Show us the certificate and allow professional documentarians to authenticate it and explain the discrepencies, and this all goes away.
Why won’t the White house confirm that Obamanazi wrote that letter to the Hospital?
There is a charity fraud issue at play. IF he wasn’t born there...I think some significant laws have been broken if he wrote that letter.
This would especially be true for the hospital. Don’t they have the ability to check their records to find out if he was born there?
We all have to release our full birth certificates from time to time. What Obama's problem with it? What's with our fellow citizen critics of "birthers?" They agree that he's above the law?
All we are saying
is give release a chance.
“innocent until proven guilty” etc.
However, the burden of proof should be on the CANDIDATE in the future, and that is why we need a law, in Kansas, and in every other State, that requires the production of a certified copy of the original, long form birth certificate, in order to appear on the ballot or to receive delegates or electors from this state.
This is the joke. McCain had to show his. They had to have congressional hearings to decide if he was eligible.
Ask if Obama is eligible and you get silence, or ad hominems.
Shut up. None of your business. Sit down. We don’t have to show you nothin.
Those 0bamunists who take it upon themselves to defend the Kenyan Usurper, always respond with attack and ridicule, but very few facts. You would think by this time they would begin to be curious as to why 0bama will not produce VALID birth documents.
Thanks, Slings and Arrows. For a moment I thought we were going to read about Dogs instead of birth certificates...
Democrats are like Slinkys - useless, but fun to push down a flight of stairs.
Exactly. The burden of proof is on Obama to prove he is eligible to hold the office of POTUS per the Constitution. At least that’s the way it should be.
Until? How about all this should have been investigated and cleared up during the vetting process. Everyone at the DNC should resign for this failure and those responsible for making sure candidates are eligible and didn't or covered it up should be jailed.
Yet, they managed to get their goons out to make sure Maj. Cook was fired from his civilian job and they're (or our tax dollars are) spending hundreds of thousands and probably threatening or bribing judges and court clerks so this never gets to a hearing. Good thing granny managed to time her demise so well.
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