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Swine flu shots at school: Bracing for fall return
Yahoo News ^ | July 09, 2009 | LAURAN NEERGAARD

Posted on 07/09/2009 4:55:26 PM PDT by Man50D

U.S. swine flu vaccinations could begin in October with children among the first in line — at their local schools — the Obama administration said Thursday as the president and his Cabinet urged states to figure out now how they'll tackle the virus' all-but-certain resurgence.

"We may end up averting a crisis. That's our hope," said President Barack Obama, who took time away from the G-8 summit in Italy to telephone another summit back home — the 500 state and local health officials meeting to prepare for swine flu's fall threat.

No final decision has been made on whether to vaccinate Americans, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius stressed. That depends largely on studies with experimental batches that are set to start the first week of August — to see if they're safe and seem to work and to learn whether they require one or two doses.

But if all goes well, the federal government will buy vaccine from manufacturers and share it for free among the states, which must then "try and get this in the arms of the targeted population as soon as possible," Sebelius said.

First in line probably will be school-age children, young adults with risky conditions such as asthma, pregnant women and health workers, she said. Unlike regular winter flu, the swine flu seems more dangerous to these groups than to older people.

"Schools are natural places" to offer those vaccines, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said.

Go home and get schools, mayors and other community leaders to spread that message, Sebelius said.

"The last thing we want is millions of parents to be surprised" the day the get-your-kid-vaccinated-at-school note comes home, she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duncan; fascism; flu; flushot; flushots; h1n1; hhs; influenza; obama; school; sebelius; swineflu; vaccination; vaccinations; vaccine
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This is another manufactured crisis to impose more government control and intrusion into everyone's lives. it will be used as an excuse to invoke The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act: so that states will force residents to get flue shots. An excerpt from the article provided at the link above.

Under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, upon the declaration of a "public health emergency," governors and public health officials would be empowered to:

1. Force individuals suspected of harboring an "infectious disease" to undergo medical examinations.
2. Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information.
3. Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.
4. Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a "substantial risk" to a "significant number of people or cause a long-term disability." (Note: Neither "substantial risk" nor "significant number" are defined in the draft.)
5. Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases. 6. Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and--this is key--property rights.
7. Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.
8. Mobilize all or any part of the "organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders."
9. Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.
10. Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.


Thirty eight states have passed a total of 66 bills or resolutions that include provisions from or closely related to the Act. The extent to which the Act's provisions are incorporated into each state's laws varies.The status of these bills by state can be seen at www.publichealthlaw.net

Additionally an Austrian Investigative reporter by the name of Jane Burgermeister ecently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America.The link to this articel is whitewraithe.wordpress.com

More links to this potential conspiracy can be found at http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/the-greatest-crime-in-the-history-of-humanity-president-obama-named-as-a-defendant and http://preventdisease.com/news/09/042709_swine_flu.shtml


I would be very leery of announcing a possible vaccination many months ahead of time given the type of administration that is attempting to destroy our Democratic Republic by imposing socialist bills designed to expand government and exert more control over the people ans considering a report WHO warns swine flu 'unstoppable' from as recently as 7/3/09 states the following passages:

"The WHO says most H1N1 cases are mild, with many people recovering unaided". "She stressed that the overwhelming majority of patients experienced mild symptoms and made a full recovery within a week, often in the absence of any form of medical treatment."

Why would the BO administration make such statement this far in advance if most cases are mild and most people recover unaided within a week? Don't be surprised if this is used as an excuse could to convince people to support socialist health care reform or prevent them from congregating in large groups such as tea parties. Be very skeptical folks.

1 posted on 07/09/2009 4:55:26 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Didn’t we have a swine flu vaccine last go where the cure was worse than the disease???


2 posted on 07/09/2009 5:05:18 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Man50D

After many years of homeschooling, my daughter would like to go to high school this fall. I am very worried about this scenario and my husband and I are going to sit her down and in no uncertain terms let her know that she is NEVER to accept an injection without our express written consent and/or presence. If anyone tries to coerce/pressure her, she is to resist and call us immediately or leave if necessary. I can honestly see them have some sort of ‘assembly’ to tell the students about the dangers of the flu and then lining them up to receive the vaccine- probably as a condition of staying in school. If it comes down to it, we will pull her out and homeschool again. We always told our kids that after 8th grade, they would have the choice to continue homeschooling or go to high school, but now I am having serious doubts if any kind of ‘mass vaccination’ program targeted at school kids is in the works.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 5:07:47 PM PDT by usmom
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To: usmom

Okay, this scares me. Are they to seriously believe that we trust them enough to have all of a sudden come up with a vaccine for Swine Flu? and then to put it in our children to use as guiena pigs. This man has completely lost his ever lovin mind.


4 posted on 07/09/2009 5:15:58 PM PDT by GoCards (Behind Sarah 100%)
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To: dawn53

What are the DEMS planning this fall? WATCH CONGRESS CAREFULLY! What is Obama up too?


5 posted on 07/09/2009 5:23:12 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: dawn53
Didn’t we have a swine flu vaccine last go where the cure was worse than the disease???

There was a swine flue outbreak in 1976. One died from the flu and 20 died from the vaccine.
6 posted on 07/09/2009 5:28:04 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: JenB

Homeschool ping!!


7 posted on 07/09/2009 5:28:08 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: usmom

Even without the threat of that, government school just isn’t a good idea.


8 posted on 07/09/2009 5:43:48 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: GoCards

The are sneaky. The vaccine they force on the kids will be okay in order to convince us getting them later all is well.

I have bever seen a campaign to start vaccinations way in advance of any crisis.

I do not trust this government. It is tyranny.


9 posted on 07/09/2009 5:51:21 PM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: dawn53
Didn’t we have a swine flu vaccine last go where the cure was worse than the disease???

Not swine flu vaccine this year (at least "yet"), but bird flu vaccine proves similar results...

Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland

Snippets: 02 Jul 2008 The medical staff, from the northern town of Grudziadz, are being investigated over medical trials on as many as 350 homeless and poor people last year, which prosecutors say involved an untried vaccine to the highly-contagious virus.

The director of a Grudziadz homeless centre, Mieczyslaw Waclawski, told a Polish newspaper that last year, 21 people from his centre died, a figure well above the average of about eight.

10 posted on 07/09/2009 5:51:28 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: usmom

No need to worry. Public schools cannot even give children a tylenol without parental/physician approval. If the vaccinations are offered at schools, each child will have to have parental permission to receive a vaccination. No permission, no shot. The laws have changed radically since I was in school and they routinely came around with those guns that gave vaccinations for every child. In Georgia, schools have to have a physician approved release for a child to get tylenol or even neosporin. My wife is not even allowed to give lotion to a student.


11 posted on 07/09/2009 6:09:29 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: GoCards

This is the same as the flu vaccinations each year. They are created yearly, so each season’s vaccination is different. They are created quickly and rolled out in the fall. There is nothing different about creating a vaccine for this flu. They just had a little less time.

They are targeting the vaccination of children, because children are being affected much more severely with H1N1 than with a seasonal flu. The vaccinations will be optional for school children, and offered at school as a convenience.

Honestly, the fact that there is going to be a vaccine this fall is very, very good news. My job requires me to get the vaccine, but most people have a choice. If you don’t think this flu is a risk, then don’t get the vaccine. You will still benefit from the people that do. The more vaccinated people, the fewer to transmit this flu.


12 posted on 07/09/2009 6:15:04 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: usmom

There’s not a chance that she will be vaccinated without your written permission. Now whether or not there is an assembly - well that’s possible - but a shot? Nope.


13 posted on 07/09/2009 6:18:41 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: ga medic

On the whole, that’s correct. They can’t even give tylenol to a kid without parental permission. But they can give condoms to minors in many school systems. And in many states, they can take a kid to a clinic for an abortion without notifying the parents.

So, I suspect that if the government really wants to do this, they will find a way to do it, one way or another.


14 posted on 07/09/2009 6:22:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SoftballMominVA

They gave my daughter a HiB vaccine in high school without me knowing a damn thing about it. I found out about it that night when she was complaining the the injection site hurt.


15 posted on 07/09/2009 7:01:36 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Cicero

They won’t. Their goal is to allow as many as possible to receive the vaccination without an associated inconvenience or cost. If the vaccinations are free and received at school, a large number of students will be vaccinated. This is the goal, and it should be enough to effectively limit transmission of the virus.

Not that I agree with it, but the theory behind giving birth control and abortion without parental consent is that kids won’t talk to their parents about sex. This excuse does not apply when talking about the flu.


16 posted on 07/09/2009 7:07:43 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: SoftballMominVA

There’s not a chance that she will be vaccinated without your written permission. Now whether or not there is an assembly - well that’s possible - but a shot? Nope.

Some schools in our area do an opt out form that needs to be filled out instead of a permission form. I would assume same there. They actually take insurance information. The year my son was going part time I told them that if he had an emergency hosptialization to say he was fully insured, but that there was NOTHING that the school could to to him without my knowlege and consent.


17 posted on 07/09/2009 7:07:57 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Marie

If you don’t mind my asking, when and where did this occur. I am almost positive that it is illegal to vaccinate students without parental consent in all 50 states. You could probably sue the school district and easily win.


18 posted on 07/09/2009 7:09:32 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: usmom

What state and which school district will your daughter be attending?


19 posted on 07/09/2009 7:24:03 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Cicero

So, I suspect that if the government really wants to do this, they will find a way to do it, one way or another.

That is what I’m afraid of. People keep telling me not to worry because they can’t do it without ‘permission’, but it could easily happen. They would just claim there was a mix-up with the paperwork or it was just too urgent a matter to wait for permission slips in the interest of ‘public health’ and then what do you do? The deed is done. Once again, we will have a talk with her- no shots at school- no matter what. Luckily this is high school and not elementary where younger kids might not understand or remember and just plain would go along with whatever teachers or others in authority told them to do. I find this to be a truly scary and Orwellian situation that I even need to be worrying about this.


20 posted on 07/09/2009 9:03:01 PM PDT by usmom
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