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USMC Colonel (Ret) writes to Gov Lingle demanding O's birth certificate
http://www.riseupforamerica.com/newandimportant.html ^

Posted on 06/25/2009 4:26:13 PM PDT by cycle of discernment

22 June 2009 Governor Linda Lingle State Capitol Honolulu, Hawai`i 96813

Dear Governor Lingle,

I am hereby requesting, in the legal sense, “demanding” to know the factual eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as President of the United States under the provisions of Article II Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America. You have the ability to settle that matter once and for all by directing that the vault copy of Obama’s birth certificate be made available for forensic examination and public viewing.

It would seem common courtesy, much less satisfaction of Constitutional requirement for one to show proof of eligibility for the office of President. The requirement does not have to be translated into law, it is in the Constitution. But, Obama has denied access to his records including his birth records and you are enabling potentially the most egregious violation of the Constitution in U.S. History.

Dr. Fukino’s attempt to put Obama’s eligibility issue to rest has not succeeded:

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

Hawaii law in force at the time of Obama’s birth would allow one born at the South Pole to register birth in Hawaii. So, Dr. Fukino’s statement means exactly nothing.

Millions have taken an oath, fought and sacrificed to uphold and defend the Constitution, that law of all man-made laws, that foundation upon which all other laws in the nation rest and that makes possible the nation’s civil discourse.

We, soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen have earned a right to know that orders issued by the Commander-in-Chief are valid, and they are not valid if he is ineligible to hold the office notwithstanding election results and pompous ceremonies. To refuse to substantiate eligibility he and you effectively make a mockery of the law, the Constitution and the lives that stand in the breach between evil and good.

Make no mistake, the enemies of this nation are evil and we are good no matter what Obama has said overseas to the contrary. We have and will sacrifice much, but what if there was suddenly reason to refuse obedience to his orders that arose from the question of legitimacy? Then what? A handful have stepped forward, but most are too busy fighting, surviving and winning or dying to have time to think about this at the moment; but they will.

I do not know to whom to attribute this quotation but it captures the essence of the dilemma for this present and all future generations: “The irresponsible confirmation in the Senate of the irresponsible tallying of votes in the Electoral College does not supersede the clear meaning of Article II, Section 1. If it is allowed to stand, disregard of the Constitution by all branches of the government would be openly established. To all who believe that the Constitution is the government’s basic law, that the Constitution is the only instrument that gives the enactments of Congress and the commands of the Executive validity, it will be clear that the rule of law in the United States is a fiction.”

It is my understanding that you directed that Mr. Obama’s records be sealed. As you are well aware, that act stands squarely in the way of military members’ right to know whether or not Obama’s orders are valid without regard to the their morality. The uncertainty attendant to potentially invalid commands undermines the good order and discipline of the Armed Forces, military readiness and the ability to defend this nation. Like it or not, you are at the center of the gathering storm surrounding the eligibility issue. The more it is stonewalled, the greater the potential storm; and yet you have it in your power to settle the issue with the stroke of your pen.

I have two requests:

First, please provide a copy of your order that sealed Obama’s birth records, or point the way to its official location that it can be studied.

Second, given the enormity of importance to all U.S. citizens I urge, indeed in the legal sense demand that you to release a certified copy of the vaulted original of President Obama’s certification of live birth.

Thank you for your consideration,

Semper Fidelis //Signed// Robert Pappas, Colonel, USMC (Ret)


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; colb; constitution; eligibility; hawaii; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; lindalingle; lingle; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obamanoncitizenissue; usurper
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1 posted on 06/25/2009 4:26:13 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
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OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

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2 posted on 06/25/2009 4:28:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Polarik; LucyT

fyi


3 posted on 06/25/2009 4:29:31 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: cycle of discernment

Forget it....there is no legitimate birth certificate, or it would have surfaced by now.

Still...as long as the media continues to be Obama’s cheerleader, this story will NEVER be covered.

This has been talked about for months in the Republicans echo chamber on the net...not even Fox tv will look into this in any serious way.

Better off spending time and energy trying to defeat The One’s legislative proposals.


4 posted on 06/25/2009 4:29:53 PM PDT by kjo
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To: cycle of discernment

I hope the good Colonel gets Josephs Farah’s reward.


5 posted on 06/25/2009 4:36:20 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: cycle of discernment
It is my understanding that you directed that Mr. Obama’s records be sealed.

While I am all for the quisling showing his BC, I believe he is hiding something, this part of the letter simply isn't true. Gov. Lingle didn't seal Bozo's BC, it was already sealed by state law long before Lingle became Governor. The only ones who can view, or get copies of, the original BC are the person whose BC it is, or a relative who has permission to do so. Period. I do believe the Governor could override this law if she so chose but maybe not.

6 posted on 06/25/2009 4:36:52 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Jeff Head
I wish the State-run media was as excited about getting to the bottom of Hussein Obama’s birth certificate as they were about getting to the bottom of where the Governor of South Carolina might have been. The State-run media does not do its job. They are nothing but a cheering section for the RATS!
7 posted on 06/25/2009 4:37:47 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: LucyT

Ping!


8 posted on 06/25/2009 4:41:47 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (All aboard the 1st Annual Free Republic National Tea Party Convention 9/11-9/12. Be there!!!)
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To: calex59
it was already sealed by state law long before Lingle became Governor.

Can anyone do this? For just about anything these days you have to produce a valid BC. For my son or daughter to play school sports they have to do so, which is weird because we had to give the school a copy when they started attending the school - so they already have a copy, but tell us we need to give them another one!

9 posted on 06/25/2009 4:43:33 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: NoGrayZone; Rushmore Rocks; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...

Thanks NGZ and RR.

Ping. Is this the same man we read about a few weeks ago, or is this a different person?


10 posted on 06/25/2009 4:49:27 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Just a thought. . .if Dear Leader serves out his presidency, does this invalidate the requirement as set forth in the Constitution? I mean, don’t some laws become invalid if not enforced? Or if violations are never prosecuted? Or if no action is taken to enforce the law? Kind of like Jury Nullification, in a way.

Just asking. Any lawyers out there than can answer this?


11 posted on 06/25/2009 4:52:53 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: jeffc

“The One” is not like the rest of us-ya know. He’s above the law.


12 posted on 06/25/2009 4:54:12 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: LucyT

Navy LCDR Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III already accused Obama of treason in a written compaint, and thus put himself in danger


13 posted on 06/25/2009 4:54:44 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: kjo
I think you're right - obama's real full BC would show he is an illegal President, fraud, and felon.

Every excuse, every dollar he spends to conceal it, just convinces me more that there is something there to hide.

14 posted on 06/25/2009 5:02:34 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: NoGrayZone
I think Pappas is a new entry, with UCMJ status. He's mentioned in Andy "Internet Powerhouse" Martin's story here:

http://www.pr-inside.com/barack-obama-s-birth-certificate-industry-r1342057.htm

And as a Hawaii resident, Pappas might have better standing to challenge this:

“This copy serves as prima facia evidence
     §338-13  Certified copies.  (a)  Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

     (b)  Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

     (c)  Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]

     §338-19  Photostatic or typewritten copies of records.  The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies.  The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original. [L 1949, c 327, §23; RL 1955, §57-22; am L 1957, c 8, §1; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-19]


15 posted on 06/25/2009 5:03:29 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: cycle of discernment

I still don’t understand why Levin, or Beck, or someone, doesn’t take up this issue. It seems irrefutable that O is hiding something.


16 posted on 06/25/2009 5:06:01 PM PDT by Lucas McCain
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To: cycle of discernment

Thanks for answering my question. They are Military men, putting their lives in danger for their Country, once again. It reminds me of a quote:

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank the U. S. Military.


17 posted on 06/25/2009 5:06:04 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; fhayek; ..

~~PING!


18 posted on 06/25/2009 5:07:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

powder..patch..ball FIRE!

Makes me happy to hear someone with the authority to make things happen ask.

Interesting times.. Powder dry.


19 posted on 06/25/2009 5:11:08 PM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: kjo
If what you say is true, that there is no legitimate birth certificate that makes him ineligable. If you can not provide all documentation required to hold any position then you are not qualified. What is the damn problem?
20 posted on 06/25/2009 5:14:00 PM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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