H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread]

GuelphMercury.com ^ | June 24, 2009 | Raveena Aulakh

[metmom]

Within minutes, six-year-old Rubjit Thindal went from happily chatting in the back seat of the car to collapsing and dying in her father's arms.

"If we had known it was so serious, we would have called 911,'' Kuldip Thindal, Rubjit's distraught mother, said in Punjabi yesterday. "She just had a stomach ache -- she wasn't even crying.''

Rubjit was pronounced dead at hospital barely 24 hours after showing signs of a fever. Later, doctors told her parents she had the H1N1 influenza virus. She is believed to be the youngest person in Canada with the virus to have died.

[metmom]

I’ve noticed that. Sadly.....

[Yaelle]

I realize that this is a link to MSNBC, so put on a mask if you have to and go to this link! LOL. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32316348/ns/health-swine_flu/?ns=health-swine_flufrom/ET

It’s an article explaining how the rapid flu tests are often FALSE NEGATIVE.

I took my son in last week because he had all the exact symptoms of the flu (but no vomiting, diarrhea - just loss of appetite - he’s only 6 so he doesn’t understand what nausea is). High high fever and a bad cough out of NOWHERE.

PLUS, he had been hospitalized and spent a long time in pediatric ER the week prior after breaking his arm and needing surgery. So, total exposure to the flu. When we were sitting in the ER (in SoCal an ER is like the pit of hell), adults were there coughing their lungs out.

Well, he tested negative on the quick test for Influenza A, the nasal swab 15-min test they give to see if you have H1N1. No other flu is going around right now, so they figure if you test positive you’ve got it.

He is healthy again with a typical residual cough - only coughing maybe 10x in the 24 hours now. I SWEAR he had the flu. He had the exact flu symptoms. Yet the test did not show it.

Waiting to see if any of the rest of us get it.

[DvdMom]

The below link Confirms that New York stopped counting swine flu deaths .

H1N1 (Swine Origin) Influenza, as of July 7, 2009* [then lists 9 new fatalities and the cumulative report]

The page then says:
*Since last update, 7/1/09. No further updates are planned at

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/cd/cd-h1n1flu-data.shtml#3

[DvdMom]

Rapid tests often wrong about swine flu

http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090806/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu_testing

[DvdMom]

I heard that taking Vitamin D3 & Vitamin C pills help as a precaution . I hope your family & you stay healthy :)

[DvdMom]

Some home remedies for the swine flu

http://www.homemademedicine.com/home-remedies-swine-flu.html

- Eat fruits and vegetables rich in vitamin A and C (Carrots, papaya, orange, tangerine, lime lemon and pineapple)

Home remedies for Swine Flu #1: Take Vitamin C to boost immune system and increase the number of white blood cells

Home remedies for Swine Flu #2: Take Zinc lozenges, it boosts the immune system as soon the symptoms develop.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #3: Colloidal silver kills viruses.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #4: Take Garlic capsules to decrease de growth of the virus.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #5: Make a tea mixing:

1 tsp. bayberry bark.
1 tsp. grated ginger root.
½ tsp. cayenne powder.
1 cup of boiling water.
Let it sit for 20 minutes.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #6: Take “cold and flu” tablets this homeopathic preparation has help people avoid getting infected with the flu virus by taking 1 tablet a day throughout the flu season.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #7: Take arsenicum album if thirsty but feel better drinking warm fluids, lack of appetite, body aches, and feel worse during the night.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #8: Take bryonia if cough, throat and chest pain, dry mouth and lips, very thirsty.

Home remedies for Swine Flu #9: Mix two tablespoons of vinegar, one tablespoon of honey, and one cup of warm water each morning. This may prevent and kill microbes

[djf]

OK.
Please remove me from the list.

This is like the eighteenth ping I’ve gotten for this thread in the last two days...

[DvdMom]

Done :) I will make sure to never ping you again .

I hope you have a wonderful day .....

[null and void]

From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.

Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.

1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. -or-
1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)

2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.

3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)

4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.

In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic.

Care should be taken to avoid “health foods” that can artificially enhance the immune system, something to be avoided when there is the prospect of ARD.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

A few clarifications. Ionic metals vary in how they act on viruses. That is, some of them, like calcium, potassium, and sodium, have a -1 or -2 valence, and will kill viruses directly, like the non-metals chlorine and oxygen.

Others, like ionic zinc and silver, do not directly kill the virus, but are able to inhibit viral reproduction. With colds and flu, this creates the need for both to be uptaken by the mucous membranes to actually meet the viruses.

Ordinary zinc supplements are not readily uptaken, except for one proprietary variety, which was patented and used in Cold-Eeze brand lozenges. This earned that brand the coveted FDA statement, “Shortens duration and severity of the common cold”, which should also apply to influenza, but that has extremely strict criteria to be proven scientifically, and could not be done so due to expense.

I don’t know of any studies about colloidal silver and its uptake into the sinuses.

Otherwise, cranberry juice, long used against bladder infection, seems to be able, in quantity, of preventing viral adhesion to cells for two serious forms of intestinal virus. Blueberry also seems to have some capability like this. However, again, there has been little study if cell adhesion can be blocked for influenza.

Importantly, one of the problems seen with some regard to H1N1, but is very pronounced in H5N1 Avian flu, is the development of Acute Respiratory Distress at about the fifth day of symptoms. ARD is an overreaction of a strong immune system which can be caused by many things, but it is very deadly, with about a 50% mortality. It has also been linked to long term consumption of arsenic.

For this reason, when ARD has been found in influenza strains, it is recommended to *not* take substances that can enhance the immune system, because that can inadvertently cause the flu to turn deadly.

Instead, an Over The Counter OTC formula is being sought that can actually inhibit a critical number of the 150 histamines and free radicals produced by a runaway immune system. This tones down the immune system in the way an antihistamine reduces severe allergy symptoms. With the idea of preventing ARD from developing.

That is, the ARD is even deadlier than the virus.

[bert]

It seems to be much easier than what you posted to handle the flu. Check this out and then google vitamin D for many other benefits of 2000 units each day.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1929828/posts

[DvdMom]

Thank You , I appreciate the info you posted . I’ve read that in the Fall there could be widespread Tamiflu shortages .
So having other alternatives should be looked at .

What is your thoughts on N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) OR Oscillococcinum which the ER doctor from Texas Dr. Marcus Gitterle wrote should be used if Tamiflu isn’t provided ....

[DvdMom]

Thanks , I appreciate your insight .

[fatima]

That’s just crazy.

[null and void]

Kewl! Thanks.

[null and void]

I plead total ignorance.

I know nussink, nussink!

[DvdMom]

What is your thoughts on N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) OR Oscillococcinum which the ER doctor from Texas Dr. Marcus Gitterle wrote should be used if Tamiflu isn’t provided ?

[DvdMom]

Swine flu cases triple in one month

http://www.caller.com/news/2009/aug/07/swine-flu-cases-triple-in-one-month/?partner=RSS

Susan McFarland, August 7, 2009

CORPUS CHRISTI — The number of confirmed swine flu cases in Nueces County has nearly tripled in during the past month.

Dr. William Burgin, Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District health authority, said as of Friday, Nueces County has 150 confirmed cases of swine flu, up from 55 July 6.

Six people are hospitalized with the illness, including three children who are on ventilators, Burgin said.

“I think we are in for a real tough time,” Burgin said.

A 31-year-old woman died Monday as a result of contracting the virus.

The county’s first swine flu-related death occurred on May 6 when a 33-year-old man died.

Burgin said the man’s multiple health conditions likely made it difficult for him to fight off the illness but he was told the woman didn’t have any known medical problems before contracting the swine flu.

Health officials can’t accurately track the total number of swine flu cases in the county because the expensive testing isn’t being done on everyone who exhibits flu symptoms.

People should stay home when sick and treat symptoms early. When treated with Tamiflu, swine flu is a relatively mild disease, Burgin said.

[DvdMom]

Montana records first swine flu death

Thursday August 6 2009 11:10 AM

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_db717cfa-82ab-11de-8f3d-001cc4c002e0.html

[DvdMom]

Gulf Coast Child Dies From H1N1 Flun (Mississippi)
http://www.wkrg.com/medical/article/gulf-coast-child-dies-from-h1n1-flu/242718/Aug-07-2009_11-15-am/

A Jackson County child with multiple underlying medical conditions has died from the H1N1 swine flu.

The death is the first in Mississippi, according to state health officials on Friday.

State Epidemiologist Dr. Mary Currier told the Associated Press the very young, elderly, chronically ill and pregnant women may be at higher risk for complications from the virus.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed 353 H1N1 deaths across the country through July 30.