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Autopsies suggest Air France jet broke up in sky
Yahoo News ^ | June 17, 2009 | STAN LEHMAN and EMMA VANDORE, AP writers

Posted on 06/17/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by SloopJohnB

Autopsies revealed fractures in the legs, hips and arms of Air France disaster victims, a Brazilian official said Wednesday. Experts said those injuries — and the large pieces of wreckage pulled from the Atlantic — strongly suggest the plane broke up in the air.

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In addition to crushing blows do to speed, within 10 sec. due to altitude they would have been rendered unconscious.
1 posted on 06/17/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by SloopJohnB
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When Clinton was president, TWA flight 800 blew up -- NOT TERRORISM! NOT TERRORISM!

Now this plane "breaks up in the air" -- NOT TERRORISM! NOT TERRORISM!

2 posted on 06/17/2009 1:13:51 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And that was before they found the wreakage.....:o(


3 posted on 06/17/2009 1:15:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: SloopJohnB

Dear God I hope that is the case.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 1:16:03 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: SloopJohnB
Philippine Airlines Flight 434

Bojinka plot

5 posted on 06/17/2009 1:18:52 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is nothing to support terrorism in either case.


6 posted on 06/17/2009 1:18:55 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: SloopJohnB

It came down in pieces. It could have blown up. Nothing yet on what caused breakup.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 1:18:58 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't have to say much.)
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"The paper also reported that some victims were found with little or no clothing, and had no signs of burns."

When the Vincennes shot down the Iranian airliner some of the bodies that were found also had no clothing. The forces that act upon the people are unimaginable.

8 posted on 06/17/2009 1:19:03 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: pfflier

But there’s nothing to exclude it, either. It’s just one of many options, and will be until further investigation can be done, hopefully including more wreckage retrieval and finding the voice and data recorders.

}:-)4


9 posted on 06/17/2009 1:21:49 PM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: SloopJohnB
It probably looked something like this.
10 posted on 06/17/2009 1:21:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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I will not make a judgment that TWA flight 800 was a terrorist attack.

But it is incorrect to say that there is "nothing to support terrorism" in that case. There were many witnesses who testified that they saw a fiery trail leave the water and hit the plane. Yes, they may have been wrong. There was also (apparently) radar records of an incoming object striking the plane. The records disapprearred and may never have existed. There was (apparently) chemical traces of rocket fuel (not jet fuel) found on some of the wreckage. Maybe that meant nothing.

It may not have been a terrorist attack. But it is incorrect to say that there is "nothing to support terrorism" in that case. But the Clinton administration certainly didn't want to entertain speculation.

11 posted on 06/17/2009 1:25:04 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: SloopJohnB

Ummmm... a human body going from 500 MPH to 0 MPH in the course of a short distance is going to break bones, whether you are strapped to an aluminum chair or not.

The plane may have broke up in flight, but I don’t see how broken bones is proof of that.


12 posted on 06/17/2009 1:26:19 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Apparently there’s a certain pattern of injuries (I forget what they’re called, but there’s a term for it) that’s specific to an in-flight breakup. They’re basically caused by the flailing of limbs caused when the seated, belted passengers suddenly get ejected into a slipstream with an apparent speed of 250-300 mph.

}:-)4


13 posted on 06/17/2009 1:26:58 PM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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In addition to crushing blows do to speed, within 10 sec. due to altitude they would have been rendered unconscious.

The phrase used in my aviation survival training was "time of useful consciousness". It's the amount of time you have between realizing you need to get the oxygen mask on your face and the time you're too far incapacitated to act on your own behalf. 10 to 15 seconds is tops at typical airliner cruise altitudes. In a less catastrophic situation, you might notice being light headed and have more time to get to oxygen.

14 posted on 06/17/2009 1:28:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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When the Vincennes shot down the Iranian airliner some of the bodies that were found also had no clothing.

And rigor mortis had already set in.

15 posted on 06/17/2009 1:33:37 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Moose4
In the old fighter ejection seats, there wasn't auto restraints and often pilots would have browken arms, or legs from failing.

Now, I believe, they are auto strapped in.

16 posted on 06/17/2009 1:42:46 PM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: BerryDingle

yeah, that was pretty odd too wasn’t it?


17 posted on 06/17/2009 1:46:17 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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“They’re basically caused by the flailing of limbs caused when the seated, belted passengers suddenly get ejected into a slipstream with an apparent speed of 250-300 mph”

And at cruise altitude, they would be clocking more like 500 mph. I would think the immediate exposure to that windspeed would break bones, think of the idiots who stand out in the 70-80 mph winds of a hurricane, then multiply that by force by 5.


18 posted on 06/17/2009 1:49:22 PM PDT by johncocktoasten (Obama/Biden '08, in and of itself, A Bridge To Nowhere)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I’m Schocked To Find That There Is Gambling Goin On In This Establishment”!(here are your winnings for the evening,Inspector Reynaud).


19 posted on 06/17/2009 1:51:35 PM PDT by bandleader
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think of the idiots who stand out in the 70-80 mph winds of a hurricane

Or that used to climb from one car into another and back at 70 or 80mph going down the freeway?

20 posted on 06/17/2009 1:56:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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