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In addition to crushing blows do to speed, within 10 sec. due to altitude they would have been rendered unconscious.
1 posted on 06/17/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by SloopJohnB
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When Clinton was president, TWA flight 800 blew up -- NOT TERRORISM! NOT TERRORISM!

Now this plane "breaks up in the air" -- NOT TERRORISM! NOT TERRORISM!

2 posted on 06/17/2009 1:13:51 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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Dear God I hope that is the case.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 1:16:03 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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Philippine Airlines Flight 434

Bojinka plot

5 posted on 06/17/2009 1:18:52 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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It came down in pieces. It could have blown up. Nothing yet on what caused breakup.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 1:18:58 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't have to say much.)
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"The paper also reported that some victims were found with little or no clothing, and had no signs of burns."

When the Vincennes shot down the Iranian airliner some of the bodies that were found also had no clothing. The forces that act upon the people are unimaginable.

8 posted on 06/17/2009 1:19:03 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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It probably looked something like this.
10 posted on 06/17/2009 1:21:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Ummmm... a human body going from 500 MPH to 0 MPH in the course of a short distance is going to break bones, whether you are strapped to an aluminum chair or not.

The plane may have broke up in flight, but I don’t see how broken bones is proof of that.


12 posted on 06/17/2009 1:26:19 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Apparently there’s a certain pattern of injuries (I forget what they’re called, but there’s a term for it) that’s specific to an in-flight breakup. They’re basically caused by the flailing of limbs caused when the seated, belted passengers suddenly get ejected into a slipstream with an apparent speed of 250-300 mph.

}:-)4


13 posted on 06/17/2009 1:26:58 PM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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In addition to crushing blows do to speed, within 10 sec. due to altitude they would have been rendered unconscious.

The phrase used in my aviation survival training was "time of useful consciousness". It's the amount of time you have between realizing you need to get the oxygen mask on your face and the time you're too far incapacitated to act on your own behalf. 10 to 15 seconds is tops at typical airliner cruise altitudes. In a less catastrophic situation, you might notice being light headed and have more time to get to oxygen.

14 posted on 06/17/2009 1:28:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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21 posted on 06/17/2009 1:57:29 PM PDT by freedommom
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Rumors in the Aviation community. Aircraft breakup, and the cause, poorly designed composite parts, control surfaces (Vertical Stabilizer ah la NYC American Crash) and other suspects. Airbus will be in deep dark trouble after this. Their composite materials may not have been properly designed or certified for safe flight in all conditions.


24 posted on 06/17/2009 2:25:27 PM PDT by agincourt1415
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The Air France incident reminded me of Aloha flight 243 which broke apart at 24,000' with a likely airspeed of 500 +/-. From Aloha.net:

"...No unusual occurrences were noted by either crewmember during the departure and climbout. As the airplane leveled at 24,000 feet, both pilots heard a loud "clap" or "whooshing" sound followed by a wind noise behind them. The first officer's head was jerked backward, and she stated that debris, including pieces of gray insulation, was floating in the cockpit. The captain observed that the cockpit entry door was missing and that there was blue sky where the first-class ceiling had been. The captain immediately took over the controls of the airplane. He described the airplane attitude as rolling slightly left and right and that the flight controls felt "loose."

Because of the decompression, both pilots and the air traffic controller in the observer seat donned their oxygen masks. The captain began an emergency descent. He stated that he extended the speed brakes and descended at an indicated airspeed (IAS) of 280 to 290 knots. Because of ambient noise, the pilots initially used hand signals to communicate. The first officer stated that she observed a rate of descent of 4,100 feet per minute at some point during the emergency descent. The captain also stated that he actuated the passenger oxygen switch. The passenger oxygen manual tee handle was not actuated.

When the decompression occurred, all the passengers were seated and the seat belt sign was illuminated. The No. 1 flight attendant reportedly was standing at seat row 5. According to passenger observations, the flight attendant was immediately swept out of the cabin through a hole in the left side of the fuselage. The No. 2 flight attendant, standing by row 15/16, was thrown to the floor and sustained minor bruises. She was subsequently able to crawl up and down the aisle to render assistance and calm the passengers. The No. 3 flight attendant, standing at row 2, was struck in the head by debris and thrown to the floor. She suffered serious injuries including a concussion and severe head lacerations....

28 posted on 06/17/2009 2:43:32 PM PDT by SloopJohnB
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