Posted on 06/08/2009 1:29:17 PM PDT by eleni121
Updated, 4:15 p.m. | ALBANY Democrats appeared to have lost their majority in the New York State Senate on Monday, in a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.
(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...
The secreatary of the State Senate (A Dem appointee) is refusing to unlock the door to the Senate chamber so Skelos can run a meeting.
What a bunch of Bolsheviks.
The website is controlled by the Bolsheviks too.
The GOP has held several NYC seats and almost all of them on LI I think.
The loss of many of those resulted in rats taking over the chamber. A few cycles ago they had a large majority.
In the Assembly outside of Staten Island I don’t think there have been any Republicans recently though.
Republicans have been able to draw the Senate lines but still those city seats the GOP have held should lean rat. I guess it was just the popularity of incumbents that enabled them to hold on.
There are now only 3 GOP Senators in the city. One in Queens (almost lost), one in Brooklyn (a gain in 2002) and one in SI.
A second SI seat has long been rat held.
It’s hilarious how the media is screaming COUP COUP, especially the NY Daily News (it seems they are worse than the Times!? Who knew). Contrast with the media response to the situation in Tennessee which castigated Republicans as crybabies.
I hope NY Republican are able to gain back some seats to really take back control. One upstate seat was lost for the first time in over a century in 2006.
The conservative party is a flat out joke. They endorse non-conservative rats sometimes in Staten Island and upstate, and Republicans who aren’t that conservative. They would have endorsed Rudy for Senate in 2000 if he disavowed partial-birth abortion. They are a patronage operation for the party chairman.
Since when has a Dem ever defected to the other side other than to preserve his re-election chances?
And once re-elected, its back to the same-o same-o.....
Ever read the history of the blue dogs? ... Many Southern Republicans came to be from this movement.
Yes I have. Ever read the history of a guy named Arlen Specter?
I could care less about NY, I don't live there. If you want to put your faith into a party jumping Dem then be my guest...........Cheers for you and the Republican party! Yey, Yey, Yey......!
We must understand this basic fact! If we attack each other the Democrats win. That is a fact! I want pols that are conservative on the big issues. Taxes, defense, smaller government. I can handle them being a little squishy on social questions.
Sarah was here!
The issue isn't whether you preferred McClintock to Schwarzenegger. The issue isn't whether you were right then, or more right than wrong. Politics in the real world means evaluating the political landscape with clarity, and putting the better candidate forth who can win and advance the conservative agenda. Sometimes the candidates will succeed and advance the conservative agenda on some fronts, and other times they will fail. The idea is to get MORE conservative candidates than less conservative candidates. Taking a posture where the perfect is the enemy of the good divorces one from being effective in the political process.
Your understanding of politics is immature, and its deficiency is made clear by your reliance on a vulgar lexicon. But most striking is that you lack the capacity to grasp the facts, as you totally have missed my point. This is more evidence that indicates that you are the type to avoid and more importantly, to reject.
Oh yeah sure.
How dare two Democrats, join with the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.
Agreed!
Skelos was my state Senator when I was a child. He is pro-life, OK on taxes (without ever proposing creative alternatives to NY’s confiscatory income tax), but is a whore to the teacher’s and public employee unions, and is not exactly a friend to gun owners (Lawn Guyland in general being very anti-gun).
>>> “I’ve been interested in politics since my dad took me to a GOP meeting when I was 8 years old. I can smell a true conservative from a mile away. You sir, are anything but a conservative. Your previous post -the one I responded to- is compelling proof of that.”
Lol.. And what, if I may ask, does a “true” conservative smell like? Do different types of conservatives have a different smell? Do religious conservatives smell like grape? How about limited government type conservatives? do they smell like chocolate or perhaps like cantaloupe?
As for the rest of your post... it was just a lot of the same naive bleating ive heard from the GOP for years.
Let me clue you in on something... New York is lost, as is pretty much all of the upper north east. They will not, in our or our children’s life times be free states. The ideology of the majority of people in that region is no longer compatible with limited government. Grape and cantaloupe “conservatives” are wasting time, resources and effort there. That is the real world clarity of the “political” landscape as it pertains to New York.
In the end its all about managing limited resources, just as in a real shooting war, you have to pick your battles and make the best use of resources to get the biggest return on investment (lives, supplies and machinery). We cant fight this war indefinitely and its in our best interest to bring it to an end (in our favor) as quickly as possible. Distractions and false hope are dangerous to momentum and morale and anything that happens in New York can be classified as a distraction and or false hope.
Things you should cheer about...
“Angry malcontent limited government type conservatives” (I wonder what they smell like?) gaining control over a state like Texas and REALLY exercising the full extent of the 10th amendment to the constitution. Make THAT happen and I will cheer along with you. THAT should be the goal of every living grape and cantaloupe conservative. Its not gonna happen in New York though and only the extremely naive, bordering on mentally handicap, will even think its possible.
I completely understand your nostalgia for the “good ol days” when you were 8 hanging with your dad and the GOP, but this is now and in the NOW we have what can effectively be classified as Marxist revolutionaries running roughshod over the federal government and the state governments of a significant number of states. THAT is the clarity of the situation, so you’ll just need to excuse me if I am a little “rough” in my treatment of foolish people.
I see his been in his seat longer than I have been alive.
I just love those types. :-D
If you prefer to be negative and nihilistic about it, fine, that's your prerogative. I say advance the conservative ball wherever and whenever we can. I'll take a 10 yard gain over a 10 yard loss any day of the week. Enough 10 yard gains and you score a touchdown. Sitting in the stands complaining that we'll never win doesn't advance the cause. The players on the field advance the cause. So enjoy your negativity and name calling - it doesn't get you anywhere worth arriving.
And yes, conservatives smell good those can't measure up, stink!
Robert C. Byrd (D-WV)
Assumed current office: January 3, 1959
Bob Casey, Jr. (D-PA)
Born April 13, 1960
Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Born May 25, 1960
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Born September 30, 1960
John Thune (R-SD)
Born January 7, 1961
David Vitter (R-LA)
Born May 3, 1961
Mark Begich (D-AK)
Born March 31, 1962
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Born January 10, 1963
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Born November 28, 1964
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Born December 9, 1966
Byrd had already been elected to his second six-year term in the Senate and unsuccessfully filibustered the 1964 civil rights act by the time Kirsten Gillibrand came out of her mother's womb. That's gotta be awkward “serving” along side the guy.
He's just slightly younger than Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez.
He may be even older than that.
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