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New Solar Cycle Prediction
NASA ^ | May 29, 2009 | Dr. Tony Phillips

Posted on 05/30/2009 12:57:45 PM PDT by Talisker

An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak, they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots.

(Excerpt) Read more at science.nasa.gov ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; nasa; sunspots
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To: Star Traveler

Strange logic on this thread. 2008 is the 9th warmest year in the last 150—despite prevailing La Nina conditions and a solar minimum (i.e., 2008 should have been cold as balls but wasn’t) and you think that undercuts AGW? The NOAA study demonstrates how little we still know about our climate, which may supports a cautionary approach to adopting any climate theory hook, line and sinker—but it doesn’t “put the lie” to anything.


21 posted on 05/30/2009 1:22:48 PM PDT by melstew
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To: jongaltsr
No. You idiots are all wrong.

The solar output will peak on December 23 2012 and the earth will be engulfed with flairs which will kill anyone facing the sun. Probably 90% or even all life will die.

It won't get me. On December 22, 2012 I'm going to buy a Prius, get inside, close the door, and be safe.

22 posted on 05/30/2009 1:25:21 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker; Horusra; Delacon; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

23 posted on 05/30/2009 1:25:33 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: Talisker

The solar cycle was first discovered in 1843. They have known about it for 166 years. These same people estimate the Sun’s age at 4.57 billion years. That’s roughly %0.00000003 of the Sun’s activity. They can guess, I guess...


24 posted on 05/30/2009 1:27:21 PM PDT by allmost
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To: melstew

There’s a very clear correlation between the sunspot activity and the heating up and cooling down of the earth. And yes, it “puts the lie” to the AGW people and really bolsters the idea of the sun being the prime “engine” behind heating and cooling...

When you mention one year, I prefer to see a whole series of years, like you saw in the Maunder Minimum and other years. So, I wouldn’t put any reliability on one year, but on the trend over a period of a number of years and how that ties in with the solar activity...


25 posted on 05/30/2009 1:27:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

bookmarked.


26 posted on 05/30/2009 1:28:18 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Not a bigger piece of weak-ratings shit on the planet right now than Tuck Chodd.)
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To: melstew
Strange logic on this thread. 2008 is the 9th warmest year in the last 150—despite prevailing La Nina conditions and a solar minimum (i.e., 2008 should have been cold as balls but wasn’t) and you think that undercuts AGW?

Strange logic yourself, claiming conclusions from data you haven't provided. Maybe you figured it was beyond us, and you could just supply your interpretive summary?

27 posted on 05/30/2009 1:28:23 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“Time to stock up on blankets and fuel.”


28 posted on 05/30/2009 1:29:09 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5(SONY)|"Also sprach Telethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36)
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To: CanaGuy
Sorry, how lazy of me.

wattsupwiththat.com/

29 posted on 05/30/2009 1:29:57 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Star Traveler

What data and charts are you using to make your statement for correlation between sunspots and earth temperature?


30 posted on 05/30/2009 1:33:30 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Oops. Yeah. I hiccuped...


31 posted on 05/30/2009 1:34:10 PM PDT by dadgum (OverjoyedTo Be A Pariah)
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To: charmedone
Lowest number of SS since 1928? Hmmm. Dustbowl, financial ruin, CLIMATE CHANGE?????

Are the SS's man-made? Can Obama, envirowackos or the left do anything to stop them? Stay tuned, when the Messiah's teleprompter says: "Holy shit Batman, what we gonna do about this?"

32 posted on 05/30/2009 1:37:46 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: CanaGuy

You asked — What data and charts are you using to make your statement for correlation between sunspots and earth temperature?

That’s why I said in Post #11 ...

For “solar minimums” and the “Maunder Minimum”, in connection with the idea of AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming, everyone has to see this, and also they’ve gotta show everyone they know, too...

I supplied the data and charts there...


33 posted on 05/30/2009 1:40:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: melstew
"Strange logic on this thread. 2008 is the 9th warmest year in the last 150—

Since you didn't provide the data, how are those 9 years distributed across that span? How accurate is the data, is the measurement criterion the same for those 150 measurements (apples to apples)?

34 posted on 05/30/2009 1:51:16 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Talisker
Anyone want to buy a bunch of (barely) used 10 meter and 6 meter gear? 'Cause the bands, they be dead, mon. And I may not live to be old enough to see another glorious cycle where you could work California from Texas on a 5W handi-talki.. 52.52 MHz FM..

/johnny

35 posted on 05/30/2009 1:57:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Talisker
Interesting article: ULTRALONG SOLAR CYCLE 23 AND POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES. He notes the correlation between global temps and sunspot cycles. Long-duration cycles (like now) correlate with lower temps.
36 posted on 05/30/2009 2:04:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Star Traveler

The sun cycles are the prime heating/cooling change mechanism, but the lowest sunspot activity in a 100 years produces the 9th warmest year since 1875? That’s very funny. I hope you are not a criminal defense lawyer.

P.S. Before you send that video propaganda to your neighbors, know this: Christie is a proponent of AGW, and Lindzen thinks cigarette dangers are highly overated. If that’s the best Marty Durkin could find—that should tell you something.

It’s a very complicate issue, that remains largley in doubt, but kool-aid is kool-aid no matter which side is serving it.


37 posted on 05/30/2009 2:08:09 PM PDT by melstew
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To: Talisker

I have to agree that NASA is “whistlin’ Dixie”, not having a clue what the Sun will do next.

It is very tempting to thing that because you can over time detect what you think is a pattern, it somehow gives you control over that pattern.

At the personal level it is called “superstition.” At the academic level, its most common manifestation is called “Man Made Global Warming.”

Preying on individuals who fall prey to superstition is what casinos do. Preying on superstitious people in government is what Al Gore does.


38 posted on 05/30/2009 2:10:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: melstew

You said — It’s a very complicate issue, that remains largley in doubt, but kool-aid is kool-aid no matter which side is serving it.

Well.., I’ll guarantee you, that when people see the data presented and the charts that show the correlation between the sunspot activity and the cooling and warming over that same period of time — those viewers don’t need much else to convince them. The data and the charts do a fine job in and of themselves (you couldn’t find a better “match”... :-) ... ) — which is why this is being shown to a lot of people all over the world now...


39 posted on 05/30/2009 2:12:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Fair enough. Sorry for the stupid lawyer joke. I do believe solar variation has a significant role—as does the IPCC and NOAA. I just don’t agree that one excludes the other, and I think 2007 and 2008 are prime evidence of that fact. Enjoy your weekend.


40 posted on 05/30/2009 2:19:40 PM PDT by melstew
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