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To: Star Traveler

The sun cycles are the prime heating/cooling change mechanism, but the lowest sunspot activity in a 100 years produces the 9th warmest year since 1875? That’s very funny. I hope you are not a criminal defense lawyer.

P.S. Before you send that video propaganda to your neighbors, know this: Christie is a proponent of AGW, and Lindzen thinks cigarette dangers are highly overated. If that’s the best Marty Durkin could find—that should tell you something.

It’s a very complicate issue, that remains largley in doubt, but kool-aid is kool-aid no matter which side is serving it.


37 posted on 05/30/2009 2:08:09 PM PDT by melstew
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To: melstew

You said — It’s a very complicate issue, that remains largley in doubt, but kool-aid is kool-aid no matter which side is serving it.

Well.., I’ll guarantee you, that when people see the data presented and the charts that show the correlation between the sunspot activity and the cooling and warming over that same period of time — those viewers don’t need much else to convince them. The data and the charts do a fine job in and of themselves (you couldn’t find a better “match”... :-) ... ) — which is why this is being shown to a lot of people all over the world now...


39 posted on 05/30/2009 2:12:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: melstew
The sun cycles are the prime heating/cooling change mechanism, but the lowest sunspot activity in a 100 years produces the 9th warmest year since 1875? That’s very funny.

Please STFU. There are lags in the climate system. The earth's atmosphere does not respond immediately to variations in heat input. The heat content of the atmosphere is very small compared to that of the oceans. And the atmosphere has two huge heat capacitors at each pole which regulate temperature by transferring huge amounts of heat at constant temperature (that of melting ice).

47 posted on 05/30/2009 3:41:10 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: melstew
It’s a very complicate issue, that remains largley [sic] in doubt, but kool-aid is kool-aid no matter which side is serving it.

Sounds like you have been hitting up the purple stuff pretty hard.


The reason CO2 levels are a "lagging" versus a "leading" indicator is solubility of CO2 in both soils and sea water based on temperature. As the oceans warm they release more CO2. This is basic high school physics.

Now here is a test for all of you AGW believing Animists. Take a very warm beer and a very cold beer. Shake both cans. Point the cans at your face and open them. Can you predict how much of soaking you are going to take with each?

If you haven't figured out yet, AGW belief is a primitive religion for the scientifically ignorant and/or dishonest. It is nothing more then the Animist belief of sacrificing virgins to appease the volcano gods. Funny, cap and trade will have the same results.

The sun has been and always will be the leading cause of cooling and warming of the earth, but probably not how you or many think. Solar winds and the magnetic fields vary with sunspot cycles. It is this phenomina that influences global climate. Maybe you should also check out Milankovitch cycles.

Finally CO2 is an extremely weak "greenhouse" gas and AGW scientists tend to believe they can violate boundary theory in their "computer" models.
58 posted on 05/30/2009 11:31:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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