Posted on 05/30/2009 12:57:45 PM PDT by Talisker
An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak, they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots.
(Excerpt) Read more at science.nasa.gov ...
Time to stock up on blankets and fuel.
Has Solar Cycle 24 even started yet?
Time to stock up on blankets and fuel.
Lowest number of SS since 1928? Hmmm. Dustbowl, financial ruin, CLIMATE CHANGE?????
Well, not really. We are still at zero-two spots per month.
“Time to stock up on blankets and fuel.”
You can say that again!
People should note the Maunder Minimum and use that in comparison to anything that they think is going on today...
Maunder Minimum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum
And this...
Deep Solar Minimum
An item on SpaceWeather.com speculates that 2009 could match 1913 as the blankest year of the past century.
The report posted March 22, 2009 says
Where have all the sunspots gone? As of yesterday, March 21st, the sun has been blank on 85% of the days of 2009. If this rate of spotlessness continues through the end of the year, 2009 will match 1913 as the blankest year of the past century.
A flurry of new-cycle sunspots in Oct. 2008 prompted some observers to declare that solar minimum was ending, but since then the calm has returned.
We are still in the pits of a deep solar minimum.
[ http://www.southgatearc.org/news/march2009/deep_solar_minimum.htm ]
So, if we even approach a Maunder Minimum, were in for a lot of cold, cold winters, and certainly not all this stuff that the AGW people (Anthropogenic Global Warming) talk about... :-)
IN FACT..., its sort of like someone has created this very low sunspot cycle to demonstrate the cooling it produces, in order to put the lie to the AGW people... LOL...
Meanwhile, the sun pays little heed to human committees, (or Al BORE). There could be more surprises, panelists acknowledge, and more revisions to the forecast.
If you were a real scientist you'd understand that such a simple, direct question is clear evidence that you don't comprehend the complexity of the analysis required to interpret the validity of the datastream or the statistical boundaries involved in the proper assessment of the relevent domains.
Next question.
For “solar minimums” and the “Maunder Minimum”, in connection with the idea of AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming, everyone has to see this, and also theyve gotta show everyone they know, too...
Its one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but its quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...
THEREFORE..., its also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...
The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called Global Warming I would recommend it to all FReepers. Its a very well-made documentary.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]
Its worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.
Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]
Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]
Also, in split parts on YouTube...
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA6sszChwQ
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERisgJ3QWjk
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLVYwmZoxc
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-AG3BA1Go
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbllTsBHuxk
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK7C1OrAAo
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIX8LcAuMQ
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZmCDOZbtM
Read this earlier today and got a good chuckle from it.
Kinda reminds me of the forecasts about the economy.
It’s really important for people to understand what the data is all about, that NASA is talking about, and the significance of the Maunder Minimum to the AGW discussion (Anthropogenic Global Warming) going on today.
There is a connection and those two posts (Post #8 and Post #11) will get you up to speed, plus the video will give something very easy for your friends and neighbors to understand, and will get them out of this misunderstanding about AGW...
You said — Kinda reminds me of the forecasts about the economy.
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There is something *very clear* that one *can forecast* from this data, if one gets into the information in Post #8 and #11...
The Maunder Minimum (mentioned in that article, too) is key to the AGW debate...
You said — Thanks for providing the Chart. As you so correctly observerd there is no data that supports the start of cycle 24, its shape, its peak, its nothing. Of course that is par for the global warmists.
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Yeah, and what’s to make them think that we won’t get into a Maunder Minimum type of situation which will produce a “Little Ice Age” again, like we had several hundred years ago?
They seem to think we can’t go into a Maunder Minimum type of situation again... and that’s *key* to understanding the AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) debate going on today.
No. You idiots are all wrong.
The solar output will peak on December 23 2012 and the earth will be engulfed with flairs which will kill anyone facing the sun. Probably 90% or even all life will die.
Thanks for the links, they cover it all. It’s hard to get through to non-science types about the difference between the Anthropogenic and Solar Global Warming models. They literally stand there and point to car exhausts as “proof,” without understanding the impact of even one medium-sized volcanic eruption, or the percentage difference between carbon dioxide and water vapor, or the complete disconnect between CO2 levels and temperature, or the sheer power of solar radiation compared to anything else on the planet.
If anyone remembers Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, there was a character in it who had a very expensive BMW motorcycle, but would get furious when anything went wrong with it, and refused to learn how to do any maintenance or minor repairs. AGW people remind me of him - they are so sure of their so-called science, but become enraged when anyone brings up scientific principles, data, inquiry, or anything connected with it - and other than braying their “opinions,” they have zero ability to defend themselves.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/
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