LOL, I just had to laugh. NASA doesn't have a clue as to what's going on, but they're desperate to somehow keep supporting Global Warming. Check out this ridiculous chart the drew in crayon, with zero actual data (including any indication of a beginning of the next cycle):
1 posted on
05/30/2009 12:57:45 PM PDT by
Talisker
To: Talisker
Time to stock up on blankets and fuel.
2 posted on
05/30/2009 1:00:07 PM PDT by
dadgum
(OverjoyedTo Be A Pariah)
To: Talisker
Has Solar Cycle 24 even started yet?
To: Talisker
Time to stock up on blankets and fuel.
4 posted on
05/30/2009 1:00:09 PM PDT by
dadgum
(OverjoyedTo Be A Pariah)
To: Talisker
Lowest number of SS since 1928? Hmmm. Dustbowl, financial ruin, CLIMATE CHANGE?????
To: Talisker
People should note the Maunder Minimum and use that in comparison to anything that they think is going on today...
Maunder Minimum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum
And this...
Deep Solar Minimum
An item on SpaceWeather.com speculates that 2009 could match 1913 as the blankest year of the past century.
The report posted March 22, 2009 says
Where have all the sunspots gone? As of yesterday, March 21st, the sun has been blank on 85% of the days of 2009. If this rate of spotlessness continues through the end of the year, 2009 will match 1913 as the blankest year of the past century.
A flurry of new-cycle sunspots in Oct. 2008 prompted some observers to declare that solar minimum was ending, but since then the calm has returned.
We are still in the pits of a deep solar minimum.
[ http://www.southgatearc.org/news/march2009/deep_solar_minimum.htm ]
So, if we even approach a Maunder Minimum, were in for a lot of cold, cold winters, and certainly not all this stuff that the AGW people (Anthropogenic Global Warming) talk about... :-)
IN FACT..., its sort of like someone has created this very low sunspot cycle to demonstrate the cooling it produces, in order to put the lie to the AGW people... LOL...
8 posted on
05/30/2009 1:03:56 PM PDT by
Star Traveler
(The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
To: Talisker
According to the forecast, the sun should remain generally calm for at least another year. From a research point of view, that's good news because solar minimum has proven to be more interesting than anyone imagined.
Low solar activity has a profound effect on Earths atmosphere, allowing it to cool and contract. Space junk accumulates in Earth orbit because there is less aerodynamic drag. The becalmed solar wind whips up fewer magnetic storms around Earth's poles. Cosmic rays that are normally pushed back by solar wind instead intrude on the near-Earth environment. There are other side-effects, too, that can be studied only so long as the sun remains quiet.
Meanwhile, the sun pays little heed to human committees, (or Al BORE). There could be more surprises, panelists acknowledge, and more revisions to the forecast.
9 posted on
05/30/2009 1:05:33 PM PDT by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
To: Talisker
Read this earlier today and got a good chuckle from it.
To: Talisker
Check out this ridiculous chart the drew in crayon, with zero actual data (including any indication of a beginning of the next cycle):Kinda reminds me of the forecasts about the economy.
13 posted on
05/30/2009 1:10:18 PM PDT by
Wissa
(I despise the liberal media.)
To: Talisker
chart the drew in crayon, with zero actual data (including any indication of a beginning of the next cycle):
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Thanks for providing the Chart. As you so correctly observerd there is no data that supports the start of cycle 24, its shape, its peak, its nothing. Of course that is par for the global warmists.
14 posted on
05/30/2009 1:11:53 PM PDT by
thedilg
To: Talisker; All
It’s really important for people to understand what the data is all about, that NASA is talking about, and the significance of the Maunder Minimum to the AGW discussion (Anthropogenic Global Warming) going on today.
There is a connection and those two posts (Post #8 and Post #11) will get you up to speed, plus the video will give something very easy for your friends and neighbors to understand, and will get them out of this misunderstanding about AGW...
15 posted on
05/30/2009 1:12:57 PM PDT by
Star Traveler
(The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
To: Talisker
No. You idiots are all wrong.
The solar output will peak on December 23 2012 and the earth will be engulfed with flairs which will kill anyone facing the sun. Probably 90% or even all life will die.
18 posted on
05/30/2009 1:20:02 PM PDT by
jongaltsr
(Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
To: Talisker
Great site to eavesdrop on the sci community discussing the gory details of climate physics. They tend to be anti-political for the most part and concentrate on the data.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/
20 posted on
05/30/2009 1:22:32 PM PDT by
CanaGuy
(Go Harper!)
To: Talisker; Horusra; Delacon; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; ...
23 posted on
05/30/2009 1:25:33 PM PDT by
steelyourfaith
("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
To: Talisker
The solar cycle was first discovered in 1843. They have known about it for 166 years. These same people estimate the Sun’s age at 4.57 billion years. That’s roughly %0.00000003 of the Sun’s activity. They can guess, I guess...
24 posted on
05/30/2009 1:27:21 PM PDT by
allmost
To: Talisker
Anyone want to buy a bunch of (barely) used 10 meter and 6 meter gear? 'Cause the bands, they be dead, mon. And I may not live to be old enough to see another glorious cycle where you could work California from Texas on a 5W handi-talki.. 52.52 MHz FM..
/johnny
35 posted on
05/30/2009 1:57:00 PM PDT by
JRandomFreeper
(God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
To: Talisker
36 posted on
05/30/2009 2:04:55 PM PDT by
PapaBear3625
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
To: Talisker
I have to agree that NASA is “whistlin’ Dixie”, not having a clue what the Sun will do next.
It is very tempting to thing that because you can over time detect what you think is a pattern, it somehow gives you control over that pattern.
At the personal level it is called “superstition.” At the academic level, its most common manifestation is called “Man Made Global Warming.”
Preying on individuals who fall prey to superstition is what casinos do. Preying on superstitious people in government is what Al Gore does.
To: Talisker
I can make this statement with certainty; the sun will eventually burn out and the earth will die. No need to worry because there is not a dang thing any Al Gohole can do to alter the course of the life of our sun.
54 posted on
05/30/2009 5:42:53 PM PDT by
Neoliberalnot
((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
To: Talisker
Publishing that abrupt departure from reality as a prediction is absurd. My sixth-grade granddaughter looked over my shoulder, and said,
"Why did they make it suddenly jump upward like that?" No wonder they "neglected" to publish several cycles of history; based on memory, that would have shown that their "prediction" has zero relationship to reality...
Those NASA fakers must know they are in a heap o' trouble when they have to start publishing such obvious nonsense...
56 posted on
05/30/2009 8:09:21 PM PDT by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
Note: this topic is from May 30, 2009. Just adding, not pinging.
85 posted on
11/29/2009 5:19:59 AM PST by
SunkenCiv
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