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Ida: the Missing Link at Last? (the Creationist Interpretation)
AiG ^ | May 19, 2009

Posted on 05/20/2009 8:56:16 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

For all the headlines and proclamations, this “missing link” story includes an amazing amount of hot air...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


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KEYWORDS: afradapis; creation; darwiniusmasillae; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; goodgodimnutz; ida; intelligentdesign; longicristatus; science
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To: wow
"Strangely enough, virtually all of the best and most distinguished researchers in the life and biological sciences in the world find a Darwinian evolutionary view the most satisfactory explanation of human origins."

And if you don't know that's a flat out lie, you don't belong in these discussions. - You've got a very fitting screen handle for such a rube.

41 posted on 05/20/2009 5:27:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: tpanther

Wow stands for WithOut Wisdom?


42 posted on 05/20/2009 5:35:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ElectricStrawberry; GodGunsGuts
"Of course none of this matters to someone that believes Man walked with T-rex."

And to one that lacks the understanding of that fact, I can only ask "What fellowship hath Light with Darkness?

Translating that down to your language WTF are you doing here?

43 posted on 05/20/2009 5:45:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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44 posted on 05/20/2009 9:17:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: editor-surveyor
I have an earned doctorate in biology from a Tier-1 University and actually know something about the topic. Do you?

As to my tendency to “lie”, why don't you pick from the tenured Biology faculty of five or more Tier 1 Universities (e.g., Ivy League, Johns Hopkins, Duke, MIT, UC Universities, UVA, etc) and tell identify a few that are in your camp. Name names, tell us where they are employed, and their academic title. Your willingness and ability to provide such a list and its length, will tell us who is the “liar.” If an when you can actually produce a verifiable list of genuine scientists at places where the faculty actually do research YOU will have some credibility. By the way, if an when you actually know this crowd, you discover many believing and practicing Christians. You just don't find many that believe in the literal truth of a Bronze age fairy tale invented at some unknown point by an uneducated tribesman and passed down through generations of oral tradition, and rewritten by generations of fallible human beings.

45 posted on 05/20/2009 10:07:22 PM PDT by wow (I can't give you a brain. But I can provide a diploma.)
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To: BigFinn

Thank you for admitting Creation Scientists are typically not very well qualified as scientists. But I would remind you that they are the ones that call their manifestation of faith “science,” and thereby become accountable by the standards of science. I would pay them no never mind if they kept their babbling in church.

It might behoove you to understand exactly what constitutes a Theory. A Theory can be disproven by failing a valid test, science then requiring its modification or rejection, but never proven. Saying Darwinian evolution has never been proven is saying nothing more than it is a Theory.

As to your dribble about the flood and where the water might be, you might clarify your frame of reference by telling us how old you think the earth is and when the flood happened? It is hard to rebut ignorance without knowing its dimensions. If you want to argue that the age of the earth is several billion years and that Noah’s Flood occured several million years ago(before any evidence of modern man existed)then I suppose illogic will stand out on its own. If you want to deny that geologists actually know what they are doing, then there is no point in discussion.

Mind you, I have no problem with the idea that there was a real, geographically recent (meaning within the last 8,000 years), and geographically constrained, flood which is a basis for the Noah story. But Hollywood’s interpretations of Al Gore’s fantasies aside, a melting of all the remaining ice caps and glaciers will at most raise sea level 30 feet or so.


46 posted on 05/20/2009 11:12:06 PM PDT by wow (I can't give you a brain. But I can provide a diploma.)
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To: Doctor Freeze
“Until you show me a fish with feet, I am not buying it.” [excerpt]
Well, ok:


Will that do?
47 posted on 05/20/2009 11:33:20 PM PDT by Fichori (Patriot's wanted: https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fichori

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OMFTxPbtg

Bob Wills & the Texas Playboys! ~ Ida Red!


48 posted on 05/20/2009 11:36:33 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Doctor Freeze
Until you show me a fish with feet, I am not buying it.


49 posted on 05/20/2009 11:41:34 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Liberty Valance

LOL!

(BTW, like your FR page!)


50 posted on 05/20/2009 11:49:14 PM PDT by Fichori (Patriot's wanted: https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dr_lew

My legged fish is better than yours. (snicker)


51 posted on 05/20/2009 11:49:55 PM PDT by Fichori (Patriot's wanted: https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fichori

Well, thank you ever so much ;o)


52 posted on 05/21/2009 12:35:02 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Doctor Freeze
Not sure why you make your comment to me since I'm not an atheist.

However, since you asked, you can pick your own fish with feet from here.

20 years should be long enough for a "doctor" to remain ignorant.

53 posted on 05/21/2009 6:00:42 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: editor-surveyor

SO it’s a “fact” that Man walked the Earth at the same time as T. rex and all the other meat eaters, eh? Should’ve limited youself to the lame insults you’re used to throwing.

OK...Man walked in the land of T. rex and all the other meat eaters...don’t suppose you’ve ever taken a Population Biology class, but I suppose education on Population Biology is just another one of those tools of the Devil.

How’d Man establish a sustainable population with a maximum reproduction rate of one per year while being preyed upon, and ill equipped to take on the meat eating predators? Little spears? Theres a reason why prey-species have higher reproduction rates than one per year.

Or did Man and T. rex and all the other meat eaters hold hands and eat vegetables together?


54 posted on 05/21/2009 7:33:34 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: editor-surveyor
The real laugh here is that the avid evos that feel so sciencey, and constantly allege that the creationists “just don’t understand science” have no credentials for the most part (wacka excepted) never having passed the professional engineer exams, nor ever having directed anything in the way of analysis nor research, and are in low level technical jobs. The very epitomy of “scientists.”

Kinda like pro-choice really means anti-life, and NOW really means national organization for liberal women.

It has nothing to do with science (or anything really) but rather ideology.

55 posted on 05/21/2009 8:24:22 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Your imagination has replaced any shred of reality for you.

Animals we have remaining today are far more hazardous than TRex could have been. Just his limited thoractic capacity made it impossible to move very fast or far.

An african lion, a tiger, an alligator, or a cape buffaloe are far more dangerous.


56 posted on 05/21/2009 12:18:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: wow

You like generalities because you can shape them to fit your needs. Your standard of what a believing Christian is vastly different than mine. Those that do not believe detailed information in god’s word fall short for me.

The visible palpable face of planet Earth fits God’s word, and nothing else, so your dismissal of the word as a fairy tale tells me what I need to know to assess your credibility. If you’re trying to tell us that Godless men in high places have replaced the real scientists with their own ‘droids in recent years, you’re nothing but an echo; we know that, so what? Truth remains immutable, and your belief system is necessarily impenetrable.

No, I do not have a degree in biology, but I did run a water quality testing lab for several years as an adjunct to my many duties when I was providing engineering services for a group of county sanitation districts, for what it’s worth. The argument here is not biology in any way. Biology grinds on day by day, and evolution comes out of politics, bongs and needles.


57 posted on 05/21/2009 12:52:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lots of claims....baseless ones, but I’m not surprised.....lions can be disuaded with a few simple spears and a group of people yelling....or even fire....but of course, you know that with your uber-intelligence. A 40+ foot long T. rex would figuratively laugh at the notion of a human warding it off. Think Trex couldn’t outrun a human? Care to make super-intelligent statements about the OTHER meat eaters that Man walked hand in hand with to the vegetable garden? I’m sure you have a super intelligent itemized list as to how Man survived amongst the possible man-eaters:

Abelisaurus
Achillobator
Afrovenator
Albertosaurus
Alectrosaurus
Alioramus
Allosaurus
Anserimimus
Appalachiosaurus
Carcharodontosaurus
Carnotaurus
Ceratosaurus
Cryolophosaurus
Daspletosaurus
Deinonychus
Dilong
Dilophosaurus
Eotyrannus
Eustreptospondylus
Fukuiraptor
Gasosaurus
Giganotosaurus

Well......I made it into the G’s before getting bored....DO TELL of all that imagination that is needed to escape all the large meat eaters that Man had to deal with in Absurdistan.


58 posted on 05/21/2009 2:15:41 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

I was viewing the skeleton of a stegasarus in a museum and a man came up beside me. He was shaking his head and said to me, “Can you imagine having to hunt one of those with only a spear?”

I was too embarrassed to respond


59 posted on 05/21/2009 2:20:08 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: bert

i had a similar experience but instead of being at a museum it was while waiting on line at the dinosaur ride at disney’s animal kingdom. my wife had to remind me that we were at the happiest place on earth, which apparently means keeping my mouth shut.


60 posted on 05/21/2009 2:37:02 PM PDT by Nipplemancer (M.S.*)
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