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Sen. Graham is Sponsoring a Bill That Will Result in a National Anti-gun Database
GOA Email ^ | 5/15/2009 | GOA

Posted on 05/15/2009 2:18:27 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

Friday, May 15, 2009

Do you know what your supposedly "Republican" senator is doing right now?

Well, it turns out that Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina is also leading the "hit parade" on behalf of legislation which would expand the scope of government in a way unprecedented in human history -- and which would place your most private medical data into an anti-gun database.

Hard to believe?

But there he is: Sen. Graham is right up there with certifiable liberals like left wing Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden and left wing Michigan Democrat Debbie Stabenow.

The bill is S. 391, and it is being pushed by some Republicans as an alternative to the Health Care Gun Ban that we've been warning you about.

S. 391 does a hodgepodge of things, but by far the most important one is to "solve" the problem of 48 million uninsured by taking away the right of Americans not to purchase government-approved insurance.

If you are uninsured, you would have to buy health insurance, whether you can afford it or not. If your employer is not unionized, he would have to retool your employer-provided health insurance policy to comply with government requirements.

If your employer cannot afford government-approved insurance with all of the politically correct bells and whistles, too bad. His only legal alternative is to fire you.

If you cannot afford government-approved insurance, too bad.

If you have to lose your home -- or your small business -- or your kids' college fund -- in order to pay for government-approved insurance, too bad.

And like the Massachusetts system on which it is modeled, the federally mandated insurance would inexorably revolve around a federal database of medical information that you could not opt out of.

So, remember when your kid's pediatrician asked him about your gun collection? Or when you grandfather was diagnosed with a mental disability which could disqualify him from owning a gun?

All of that will be in the federal database, which could be searched by virtually anyone in the Department of Health and Human Services -- and by BATF, by simple request.

And, although section 103 of S. 391 purports to allow you to keep the coverage you have, all employer-provided insurance which you wish to keep has to be rewritten to contain all the government-required mandates -- or you're not allowed to keep it.

ACTION: Contact Senator Graham and urge him to remove his cosponsorship from S. 391. Please use his webform at http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.EmailSenatorGraham
to do so (you can copy and paste the following text or type your own).

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator Graham:

In connection with S. 391 -- the Wyden-Stabenow individual insurance mandate -- apparently some people are under the delusional notion that this bill is something other than the biggest government interference in the private sector in American history.

This crazy bill would put government bureaucrats in the position of dictating the contents of virtually every insurance policy in the country -- with the sole conspicuous exception of unionized industries with collective bargaining agreements.

This bill would result in all kinds of personal information being put into a medical database. Across the nation, there have been reports that pediatricians are asking kids about their parents' gun collection. And military veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD have already been disqualified from owning guns.

All of this information will be in the federal database, which could be searched by virtually anyone in the Department of Health and Human Services -- and by the FBI and the BATFE, by simple request.

Please do not saddle America with a massive open-ended bill like S. 391.

In short, please remove your cosponsorship from S. 391.

Sincerely,


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To: 2111USMC
If you've been treated for heart conditions or cancer or anything serious, the information is out there and potential insurers can get it.

That happened to me when my employer changed insurance. All of a sudden I started receiving weird letters telling me to "check this and this box, sign and return" regarding my visits to a chiropractor.

I took it to my chiropractor, and he told me they had found out that I had been treated for a back injury eight years before. It was a good thing I talked to him about it, because I almost walked right into their little trap.

41 posted on 05/15/2009 7:28:41 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.")
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Look in any cesspool and you'll see and smell all you need to know about LG.
42 posted on 05/15/2009 8:02:50 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

FYI: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!


43 posted on 05/15/2009 8:27:37 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive
Agreed. A lot of courts, including Marshall's SCOTUS in 1833, over looked the fact that the text of the legislation used to Amend the Constitution with the Bill of Rights included the clause "to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz." in the Preamble.

This means the States, and Congress, both ratified the "shall not be infringed" language as well as the "laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding" in the Supremacy Clause.

To say a Right, which the Founders clearly defined, could be "infringed" via some other Federal power, or ignored outright by the States... is the very height of the lunacy that is killing our Republic.

44 posted on 05/15/2009 8:38:16 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Oh, Billy... your boy is at it again.


45 posted on 05/15/2009 9:35:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I mourn the loss of South Carolina as a one of states that respected States Rights.

R.I.P. So Car................


46 posted on 05/15/2009 10:07:41 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Many of us in S.C. tried to mount a primary challenge to Graham but it didn’t gain much steam. I agree, though, he needs to go. He has cut too many deals with the devil to be considered one of us.


47 posted on 05/15/2009 10:22:42 PM PDT by Welshman007
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To: Vaquero

They had a chance in November and punted.


48 posted on 05/15/2009 11:03:25 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: fieldmarshaldj
If true, that would be unusual, since he's almost always solid on the gun stuff. Both the NRA and GOA give him solid As year after year, so I'd be surprised if he's going wobbly on them. If so it's time to write Lindsey Graham and raise hell.

Could be worse though, we could have your boy in that Senate seat cutting all funds for the troops and sponsoring a national apology tour for Al-Quada. ;-)

Honestly, backing a Dennis Kuchinich-type Paulbot...that's low. But thankfully, I know that in no other race would you even THINK of such an action. Talk about putting personal revengance ahead of your political views.

49 posted on 05/15/2009 11:41:29 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Damn, Billy. Is there ANYTHING this creep can do that will turn you off of him ? Yup, I endorsed Conley and I’d do it again as long as this creepy RINO jackass remains his opponent.


50 posted on 05/15/2009 11:54:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well Graham's "shut the bigots up" speech was pretty much a low point for him, I'll give you that.

But seriously... first you backed a Giuliani-loving brain-damaged cocaine ddict against the guy, then a Paulite nutjob who joined the party of socialism because the GOP wouldn't kiss Al-Quada's behind. And you'd do it again in a heartbeat. That's sad. I mean, damn, is there ANYONE sleazy enough that WOULDN'T support them in a two-way race against Graham? How about Charlie Manson vs. Lindsey Graham. That's your ballot choice. Sure, he's a deranged serial killer, but you'd be rid of the eeeeeeeeevil Lindsey it must be worth it. ;-)

51 posted on 05/16/2009 12:06:58 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Interesting that the WH always was covering the little creep’s ass. Very interesting that it was “known” about Ravenel PRIOR to his election statewide and that info would be kept hushed up... until he decided to challenge the creep. Very interesting. That’s the kind of crap we came to expect from the Clintons and the current regime. It’s too bad they never played that kind of hardball against Democrats, or we might actually still have the majority. Ah, but we still got the creep... and Juan, too. With those two asshats, who needs Democrats ?


52 posted on 05/16/2009 12:13:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Field, Ravenel had already announced he WASN'T going to challenge Graham when he was busted for being the biggest cokehead in SC. The anti-Graham people were already trying to find another candidate because Ravenel had told them no. There was no conspiracy with them dropping a bombshell to "stop him" from running. I could find the article proving but what's the point? In any case Ravenel was too busy trying to sell South Carolinians on Rudy (who is far more liberal than Graham will ever be). 90% of freepers will admit Ranevel turned out to be a scumbag, and Giuliani was ridiculed on this board for days since he didn't vet the guy.

If it makes you feel better, I will admit that the guy who actually did end up challenging Graham in the primary, Buddy Witherspoon, was a decent person and probably would have voted to the right of Graham if he was elected. However, he didn't have a prayer and was nothing more than a protest vote.

And I think you're actually coming around to my point of view on Jim DeMint, my perspective being yes, DeMint is the "more conservative" Senator from SC, but the degree of conservatism can be measured in millimeters. DeMint is a pretty solid conservative vote but he does not belong the pedestal his worshipers on FR place him on. He's just as bad as Graham when he says crap like "Hillary will be one of our greatest secretaries of state"

53 posted on 05/16/2009 12:28:46 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Ravenel only ran for Treasurer to use as a stepping stone to the Senate, and I’m sorry, I damn well do believe he was set up. Does that absolve what he did ? No. But as I stated, it’s very convenient the Feds were more than willing to allow him to run for statewide office to take down an incumbent Democrat (when the public had a right to know what was going on with Ravenel), but only just happened to “produce” the charges just as he was running for the Senate. The whole think reeked.

I did not support Giuliani, but I had an ounce more respect for him than some of the other RINO turds (and at least he wasn’t trying to switch positions and pretend like he’d “discovered” Social Conservatism the moment he left office).

Nope, the whole takedown of Ravenel was a nice little warning to any serious challengers of Graham. No wonder nobody else first tier came forward, because who knows what Graham’s powerful friends in DC would dig up. And THAT is why I’d have voted for Conley. This guy operates like a rodent, talks like a rodent, and SMELLS like a rodent. I’d rather have an OPEN Democrat serving than a covert one.

And DeMint gets no hosannas from me, either. He was dumb enough to support Slick Willard (or worse, approved of what he did), and that goes to nearly unforgiveable. And the Hil Clinton comment was sickening.


54 posted on 05/16/2009 12:54:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: upchuck; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

Dissing gun owners isn’t gonna bode well for his future.

I hope he has a more prominent primary opponent next time.


55 posted on 05/16/2009 1:56:52 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

2014 is a long way away.


56 posted on 05/16/2009 2:34:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Vaquero

It’s embarassing to me as a South Carolinian to admit that Flimsey Tinkerbelle is like crabgrass and is probably here to stay (got reelected in 2008; I voted against him).

He’s notorious around here for not replying to correspondence from we the unwashed peasantry. An arrogant little creep, JMHO.


57 posted on 05/16/2009 3:45:04 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: BillyBoy
GOA gives him solid As year after year

Looks like the fruitcake has been downgraded to a 'B'.

58 posted on 05/16/2009 5:39:29 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 2nd amendment mama
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s391/text
text of bill
59 posted on 05/16/2009 6:22:02 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: lula

Can we recall this idiot RINO SOB?


60 posted on 05/16/2009 6:52:07 AM PDT by plsjr (<>< Psychotherapy for liberals: "... reality always gets the last vote.")
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