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IS NATURE ONE MEAN MOTHER? (the Medea Hypothesis)
MSNBC ^ | May 06, 2009 | Alan Boyle

Posted on 05/07/2009 11:36:22 AM PDT by presidio9

Swine flu? Global warming? Toxic oceans? Why does Mother Nature sometimes seem to be on the attack? According to the decades-old "Gaia hypothesis," it's because Earth is a self-regulating system that is responding to our own excesses. In a new book titled "The Vanishing Face of Gaia," British biologist James Lovelock says humanity is "Earth's infection."

"Individuals occasionally suffer a disease called polycythaemia, an overpopulation of red blood cells. By analogy, Gaia's illness could be called polyanthroponemia, where humans overpopulate until they do more harm than good," Lovelock writes. He says the cure won't come until the human tribe is trimmed back from its current 6.8 billion to, say, 1 billion people.

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"I hypothesize that life and its processes, together often referred to as 'Mother Nature,' was, is, and will be anything but a good mother to her many evolved and evolving species," Ward contends in his new book, "The Medea Hypothesis."

Gaia vs. Medea ... that sounds like the start of a philosophical catfight.

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The way Ward sees it, we're the solution, not the problem. "In the short term, we are responsible for 'Medean' effects, but it's going to be our long-term stewardship and engineering that makes things work," he said. "I view humans as the only Gaians on the planet. Everything else is Medean."

While Lovelock uses "Gaia" to refer to Earth's biosphere as a kindly mother goddess, Ward uses "Medea" as a reference to the mother in Greek myth who killed her own children. Ward says life, like Medea, eventually sows the seeds of its own near-destruction - over and over again. "Life boils up and bubbles up, and through its own waste products and activities makes the planet no longer inhabitable,"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gaia; godsgravesglyphs; medea
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1 posted on 05/07/2009 11:36:22 AM PDT by presidio9
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British biologist James Lovelock says humanity is "Earth's infection."

If Mr. Lovelock were sincere, he would commit suicide immediately.

But he doesn't want to commit suicide.

He wants OTHER PEOPLE to commit suicide.

For their own good, of course.

2 posted on 05/07/2009 11:38:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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The ninety-year old Lovelock had some stark comments in his “NewScientist” interview.

“Most of the ‘green’ stuff is verging on a gigantic scam. Carbon trading..is just what finance and industry wanted. It’s not going to do a damn thing about climate change, but it’ll make a lot of money for a lot of people..”


3 posted on 05/07/2009 11:41:30 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I can come up with a fairy lengthy list of folks that could do with ‘trimming’.


4 posted on 05/07/2009 11:41:36 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: presidio9
leftard sells crappy newage book, leftarded media pushes aforementioned crappy newage book, making it into a "story".

Global warming? No.

Toxic oceans? No.

Swine flu? Damp squib.

Do you think maybe if we get a dude dressed like Obama to jump off a cliff they'll all follow him?
5 posted on 05/07/2009 11:41:38 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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“I hypothesize...”

I.e. “I imagined it and liked what I imagined, so I’m going to fancy it to be true, without a shred of evidence.”


6 posted on 05/07/2009 11:41:58 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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7 posted on 05/07/2009 11:42:07 AM PDT by jakerobins
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the cure won't come until the human tribe is trimmed back

Fine. Democrats first.

8 posted on 05/07/2009 11:42:27 AM PDT by Free State Four
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Oh wait, I thought he said, "Madea."

9 posted on 05/07/2009 11:43:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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Crack meet Pot. These guys fit the definition of an “expert” that I recently heard - a person that knows more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing. And of course the “defects” in the earth are explained in Genesis, but I doubt either of these children of “mother earth” have bothered with the explanation provided by the Creator. Anyway their musing are good for a laugh.


10 posted on 05/07/2009 11:45:15 AM PDT by BienHoa69-70 RVN
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British biologist James Lovelock says humanity is "Earth's infection."

That's original, I wonder where he came up with that idea?

11 posted on 05/07/2009 11:46:55 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: BienHoa69-70 RVN

A groaning creation...


12 posted on 05/07/2009 11:48:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think that about sums it up.


13 posted on 05/07/2009 11:49:29 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

ie AL Gore.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 11:50:01 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: presidio9
"Individuals occasionally suffer a disease called polycythaemia, an overpopulation of red blood cells.

Individuals also occasionally suffer a disease called self-loathing hysteria, an overamplification of pomposity mixed with idiocy.

15 posted on 05/07/2009 11:52:18 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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It isn’t the happiest analogy, actually. The Earth’s population at the time of the Black Death was only about 400 million. Maybe 250 million at the time of the Plague of Justinian. Disease may be a lot of things but Mother Gaia throwing a snit probably isn’t one of them. IMHO.


16 posted on 05/07/2009 11:54:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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From Genesis 3:17 "To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you;

It is part of the Curse.

17 posted on 05/07/2009 11:57:35 AM PDT by sr4402
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An entire article on the medean effect, and they never define it.

Mass extinctions due to meteor stikes means Earth is set up to prevent over population? Stupidity. How does a supposedly intelligent person mistake chance for intent?


18 posted on 05/07/2009 12:16:08 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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He says the cure won't come until the human tribe is trimmed back from its current 6.8 billion to, say, 1 billion people.

He is the earth doctor, and he's found a cure! All we need to do is "trim" 5.8 billion people, and Gaia will be happy once again!

In previous times guys like this were called witch doctors.

19 posted on 05/07/2009 12:21:23 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Mass extinctions due to meteor stikes means Earth is set up to prevent over population? Stupidity. How does a supposedly intelligent person mistake chance for intent?

Incidently, if I'm willing to accept that "Mother Earth" controls everything that takes place on the planet, how does that translate into sunspots or ateroids tens of millions of miles from earth, which set out on orbits 5 billion years ago which would eventually cross paths with Gia, and send the asteroids crashing into us?

20 posted on 05/07/2009 12:40:15 PM PDT by presidio9 ("a stable once had something inside it that was bigger than our whole world," -Lucy Pevensie)
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