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Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law-(DARES Obama To Challenge it!)
Gather ^ | 5-5-09 | George W.

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:24:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf

The state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.

Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.

Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.

Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA .

Silencers made in Montana and sol in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.

Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.

Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.

There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana !


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; bhotyranny; donttreadonme; fubo; guns; law; liberty; montana; obama; shallnotbeinfringed; sovereignty; statesrights
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To: walsh
Yes indeed. In the hands of terrorists, crackpots, murders, drug dealers and other scum.

These people can get illegal guns anytime they wish, right now. They won't have to go to Montana to get them.

161 posted on 05/06/2009 12:09:45 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: nina0113
Not ONE of which I can access at work - they're blocked either for "social" or "weapons" - so this is a self ping to read up on it at home.

Sounds like you work for the Air Force.

162 posted on 05/06/2009 12:10:25 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: Maryhere
The problem I can forsee is that states that liberalize their gun laws can expect an influx of a criminal element because they use guns too.

If you really believe that, you should post a sign on your front door stating "occupant unarmed" to keep the criminals away.

163 posted on 05/06/2009 12:12:12 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: DesertRhino

I’ll help Montana fight if they want me.


164 posted on 05/06/2009 12:18:58 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: Vor Lady

Thanks, did you see this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2243741/posts


165 posted on 05/06/2009 12:19:20 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (not restricting a freedom, but punishing those who abuse their freedom to the detriment of others.)
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To: tcrlaf

We can dream but.....there are no steel mills in Montana that I know of. If a manufacturer buys steel to make weapons out of they are engaging in interstate commerce. This law will be struck down.


166 posted on 05/06/2009 12:20:33 PM PDT by Flint
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To: walsh
Yes indeed. In the hands of terrorists, crackpots, murders, drug dealers and other scum.

Is this your first gun thread? The people you listed above break every law possible except gun laws?

Thank God for Montana /sarc

and Texas!

167 posted on 05/06/2009 12:30:50 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: Beelzebubba
he difference is, .22 (target long rifle rounds) and .45 are BOTH sub sonic.

No, standard velocity .22 is slightly supersonic, at least in a rifle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle#Standard_velocity.

There are ones specifically loaded to be subsonic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle#Subsonic.

168 posted on 05/06/2009 12:36:13 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: Beelzebubba

I’m still willing to say that the action cycling will still make more noise than the round.


169 posted on 05/06/2009 12:38:28 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: Flint
We can dream but.....there are no steel mills in Montana that I know of. If a manufacturer buys steel to make weapons out of they are engaging in interstate commerce. This law will be struck down.

Wrong

Just found two without trying too hard.
B&D Fabrication Havre, MT
Black Butte Mfg, Inc Belgrade, MT

Or are you going to come back and say that the iron ore and plastics in all the weapons now need to come from Montana itself?

170 posted on 05/06/2009 12:45:43 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: tcrlaf

The interstate commerce clause essentially became meaningless after the FDR.


171 posted on 05/06/2009 12:46:07 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Flint

heh, they can get anything they want across the northern border, dont have to go interstate.... :)


172 posted on 05/06/2009 12:46:18 PM PDT by Concho ( When the people fear the govt it is tyranny. When the Govt fears the people it is liberty.)
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To: Vaquero

you mean her mendicino beano?

Of course not, but you get the jest I’m sure...


173 posted on 05/06/2009 12:46:41 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: xmission
-- I believe part of the Montana bill states that Montana will defend whoever is arrested/fined/whatever by the feds. --

That section was struck out. Law as-passed

Law proposed and REJECTED:

NEW SECTION. Section 7. Duties of the attorney general. (1) A Montana citizen whom the government of the United States attempts to prosecute, under the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce, for violation of a federal law concerning the manufacture, sale, transfer, or possession of a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured and retained within Montana must be defended in full by the Montana attorney general. (2) Upon written notification to the Montana attorney general by a Montana citizen of intent to manufacture a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition to which [sections 1 through 7] apply, the attorney general shall seek a declaratory judgment from the federal district court for the district of Montana that [sections 1 through 7] are consistent with the United States constitution.

174 posted on 05/06/2009 12:49:06 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: gimme1ibertee

isn’t that a mental toss flycoon?


175 posted on 05/06/2009 12:55:19 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: jurroppi1

her cammarillo brillo

and a $40 billo....(as I cross the line from one song to another)


176 posted on 05/06/2009 12:59:26 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Cboldt

Thats a bummer.


177 posted on 05/06/2009 1:04:14 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: NellieMae

Ping to self to read later. Sounds great!!!!


178 posted on 05/06/2009 1:07:48 PM PDT by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Vaquero

I’m officially stumped - and I have nearly every Zappa album to be had - and perhaps some bootleg stuff. You talkin’ Dina Moe Hum?

Maybe I’m not stumped after all - what do I know...


179 posted on 05/06/2009 1:09:17 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: jurroppi1

I crossed camarillo brillo with Dina-Moe-hum

just fiddlin around.

I stopped buying his stuff back before these....my era was the suzy creamcheese, nassel retentitive caliopi music etc from the 60’s.


180 posted on 05/06/2009 1:14:46 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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