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Doctors face orders to 'kill on demand'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 02, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/02/2009 4:09:06 AM PDT by Man50D

Physicians in Montana could be facing "kill-on-demand" orders from patients who want to commit suicide if a district court judge's opinion pending before the state Supreme Court is affirmed.

The case has attracted nominal attention nationwide, but lawyers with the Christian Legal Service have filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the pending case because of what it would mean to doctors within the state, as well as the precedent it would set.

The concern is over the attack on doctors' ethics and religious beliefs – as well as the Hippocratic oath – that may be violated by a demand that they prescribe deadly chemicals or in some other way assist in a person's death.

M. Casey Mattox, a lawyer with the CLS, told WND that states allowing a "right to die" across the country – Oregon and Washington – include an opt-out provision for physicians with ethical or religious opposition to participating in killing a patient.

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1 posted on 05/02/2009 4:09:06 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

They should just sell it over the counter like Plan-B and leave us doctors out of it. If people want to kill themselves, let them.


2 posted on 05/02/2009 4:17:52 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: SC DOC
Just as long as they don't kill themselves with a gun. That's "Bad." But killing themselves nonviolently with chemicals is "Good."

Can someone please explain this to me? Because according to Liberals, "Good" and "Bad" apparently don't mean what I always thought they meant.

3 posted on 05/02/2009 4:22:04 AM PDT by Lucretia Borgia (I will be happy to show Obama the same respect the Democrats gave Reagan, Bush, and Palin.)
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To: SC DOC

They should just sell it over the counter like Plan-B and leave us doctors out of it. If people want to kill themselves, let them.
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I agree, if someone is determined to kill themselves, there is no stopping them. But *forcing* a doctor to do this against religious/ethical beliefs is just beyond stupid.


4 posted on 05/02/2009 4:32:58 AM PDT by Sinschild (I'm for anything that punishes the weak and stupid for being weak and stupid.)
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To: Man50D

If doctors are forced to assist in suicide, something like the following could be coming soon in the USA


China Makes Ultimate Punishment Mobile
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY

(June 15) — Zhang Shiqiang, known as the Nine-Fingered Devil, first tasted justice at 13. His father caught him stealing and cut off one of Zhang’s fingers.

Twenty-five years later, in 2004, Zhang met retribution once more, after his conviction for double murder and rape. He was one of the first people put to death in China’s new fleet of mobile execution chambers.

The country that executed more than four times as many convicts as the rest of the world combined last year is slowly phasing out public executions by firing squad in favor of lethal injections. Unlike the United States and Singapore, the only two other countries where death is administered by injection, China metes out capital punishment from specially equipped “death vans” that shuttle from town to town.

Makers of the death vans say the vehicles and injections are a civilized alternative to the firing squad, ending the life of the condemned more quickly, clinically and safely. The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China “promotes human rights now,” says Kang Zhongwen, who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van in which “Devil” Zhang took his final ride.

For years, foreign human rights groups have accused China of arbitrary executions and cruelty in its use of capital punishment. The exact number of convicts put to death is a state secret. Amnesty International estimates there were at least 1,770 executions in China in 2005 - vs. 60 in the United States, but the group says on its website that the toll could be as high as 8,000 prisoners.

The “majority are still by gunshot,” says Liu Renwen, death penalty researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a think tank in Beijing. “But the use of injections has grown in recent years, and may have reached 40%.”

China’s critics contend that the transition from firing squads to injections in death vans facilitates an illegal trade in prisoners’ organs.

Injections leave the whole body intact and require participation of doctors. Organs can “be extracted in a speedier and more effective way than if the prisoner is shot,” says Mark Allison, East Asia researcher at Amnesty International in Hong Kong. “We have gathered strong evidence suggesting the involvement of (Chinese) police, courts and hospitals in the organ trade.”

Executions in death vans are recorded on video and audio that is played live to local law enforcement authorities - a measure intended to ensure they are carried out legally.

China’s refusal to give outsiders access to the bodies of executed prisoners has added to suspicions about what happens afterward: Corpses are typically driven to a crematorium and burned before relatives or independent witnesses can view them.

Chinese authorities are sensitive to allegations that they are complicit in the organ trade. In March, the Ministry of Health issued regulations explicitly banning the sale of organs and tightening approval standards for transplants.

Even so, Amnesty International said in a report in April that huge profits from the sale of prisoners’ organs might be part of why China refuses to consider doing away with the death penalty.

“Given the high commercial value of organs, it is doubtful the new regulations will have an effect,” Allison says.

Local Executions

Makers of death vans say they save money for poor localities that would otherwise have to pay to construct execution facilities in prisons or court buildings. The vans ensure that prisoners sentenced to death can be executed locally, closer to communities where they broke the law.

That “deters others from committing crime and has more impact” than executions carried out elsewhere, Kang says.

Jinguan - “Golden Champion” in Chinese - lies an hour’s drive from Chongqing in southwestern China, below the green slopes of Cliff Mountain. Along with the death vans, the company also makes bulletproof limousines for the country’s rich and armored trucks for banks. Jinguan’s glossy death van brochure is printed in both Chinese and English.

From the outside, the vans resemble the police vehicles seen daily on China’s roads. A look inside reveals their function.

“I’m most proud of the bed. It’s very humane, like an ambulance,” Kang says. He points to the power-driven metal stretcher that glides out at an incline. “It’s too brutal to haul a person aboard,” he says. “This makes it convenient for the criminal and the guards.”

The lethal cocktail used in the injections is mixed only in Beijing, something that has prompted complaints from local courts.

“Some places can’t afford the cost of sending a person to Beijing - perhaps $250 - plus $125 more for the drug,” says Qiu Xingsheng, a former judge working as a lawyer in Chongqing. Death-by-gunshot requires “very little expense,” he says.

Qiu has attended executions by firing squad where the kneeling prisoner is shot in the back of the head. The guards “ask the prisoner to open his mouth, so the bullet can pass out of the mouth and leave the face intact,” he says.

No Debate

In the United States, some death row inmates and death penalty opponents want the Supreme Court to declare lethal injections cruel and unusual. A recent lawsuit claimed inmates suffer excruciating pain during executions because they do not get enough anesthetic.

There is no such debate in China, which uses the same three-drug cocktail as the U.S. federal government and most U.S. states: sodium thiopental to make the condemned unconscious, pancuronium bromide to stop breathing, potassium chloride to stop the heart.

People’s Daily and other state media describe the mix as a “non-virulent drug,” bringing about “immediate clinical death while inflicting no physiological pain.”

“It doesn’t matter what method you use,” Qiu says. “If someone is convicted of a capital crime, they should be executed.”

Chinese prisoners condemned to death are not offered a choice of injection over gunshot, but Qiu and others suspect wealth and connections can buy the newer method.

“It is a real phenomenon that gangsters and corrupt officials are killed by injection more than gunshot, so their bodies are intact, and death is less painful,” Liu says. “But I doubt it is government policy. These criminals are usually held in cities, where the injection is used. Common criminals are held in county-level facilities, where shooting is more common.”

Tycoon Yuan Baojing was executed in March in a death van, in northeast China’s Liaoyang city. He had been convicted of arranging the murder of a man trying to blackmail him for attempting to assassinate a business partner.

Sixty-eight different crimes - more than half non-violent offenses such as tax evasion and drug smuggling - are punishable by death in China. That means the death vans are likely to keep rolling.

“If we abolish the death penalty, then crime will grow,” Kang says.


5 posted on 05/02/2009 4:37:50 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Lucretia Borgia
“Can someone please explain this to me? Because according to Liberals, “Good” and “Bad” apparently don't mean what I always thought they meant.”
Liberals are mentally ill. Unfortunately, they have bullied, lied and brow beaten the medical community to reclassify nearly all forms of mental illness and deviant behavior as “alternative lifestyles”. They have also somehow managed to convince sufficient numbers of their fellow mentally ill ilk that people that embrace what used to be though of as family values are suspect. So yes, the simple explanation is that they have turned everything upside down so they can attempt to feel good about their illness.
6 posted on 05/02/2009 4:45:02 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: SC DOC

I think requiring a doctor’s note specifying a terminal diagnosis is not a bad idea. The physician is not prescribing the meds, but documenting a poor prognosis. The pharmacist should check id and record for the state the sale of the “kit”. The use of this “kit” should not prevent life insurance payouts when death was imminent anyway.

As for the spiritual side, that’s a whole different story. There will be plenty of people who want no part of it; that’s fine. But for those facing the prospect of slow, painful or degenerative end of life the choice should be theirs.

I hate to bring up images of 9/11, but I never heard discussions from anti-euthanasia people about those poor victims that opted to jump to their deaths rather than perish by fire. I don’t see the difference,.


7 posted on 05/02/2009 4:56:23 AM PDT by YankeeGirl
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To: CholeraJoe

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8 posted on 05/02/2009 4:57:33 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: YankeeGirl
Using fear to kill someone is murder.

That's what's going on here ~ threat of judicial retribution if you don't kill someone is the use of fear to kill.

The judge should be ignored, then removed from office by the state legislature, then tried on a variety of charges by the governor, then executed in the public square.

End of story.

9 posted on 05/02/2009 5:09:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Man50D
Do want to die looking at a beautiful woman?

YES!

Stick you head in here (disguised guillotine)

10 posted on 05/02/2009 5:13:39 AM PDT by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: John Leland 1789
ending the life of the condemned more quickly, clinically and safely.

You just gotta love some of these writers!

Mark

11 posted on 05/02/2009 5:26:49 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: John Leland 1789
the vehicles and injections are a civilized alternative to the firing squad, ending the life of the condemned more quickly

Now pull the other leg.

12 posted on 05/02/2009 7:04:18 AM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; narses

ping for your lists


13 posted on 05/02/2009 8:36:06 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: xsmommy; SC DOC

I still have a Montana medical license. I guess I should mail it back, huh?


14 posted on 05/02/2009 8:47:00 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Saiga 12 shotgun - When the Zombies see it, they'll sh*t bricks.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

The Left has tortured and murdered hundreds of millions of innocent people. They only have a problem going after the guilty.


15 posted on 05/02/2009 9:02:31 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: muawiyah

And if his murderous decision stands, he should be civilly disobeyed by everyone. Or...as Michael Kinsley claims we will all be guilty of the unslaught of the political opposition’s judgement.

The Left is really out of control and needs a good punch in the nose.


16 posted on 05/02/2009 9:04:46 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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17 posted on 05/02/2009 10:20:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: YankeeGirl
I hate to bring up images of 9/11, but I never heard discussions from anti-euthanasia people about those poor victims that opted to jump to their deaths rather than perish by fire. I don’t see the difference.

Anti-euthanasia man here. There is no difference. The cancer victim killing himself with an injection, or a fire victim killing himself by jumping out of the building both commit the sin of suicide. Assisting either one is a crime.

18 posted on 05/02/2009 2:22:14 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: SC DOC
They should just sell it over the counter like Plan-B and leave us doctors out of it. If people want to kill themselves, let them.

Makes sense until you realize that would affect pharmacists & young pharmtechs still in training. There's plenty of stuff in most hardware stores that could get the job done quite effectively...

19 posted on 05/02/2009 2:31:57 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Man50D
Pinged from Terri Dailies


20 posted on 05/02/2009 4:54:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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