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Darwin’s Sad Legacy (evolution invented to give death and suffering a positive explanation?)
AiG ^ | April 14, 2009 | Dr. Tommy Mitchell

Posted on 04/15/2009 10:52:09 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The common thread throughout Darwin’s life was his continual struggle with the issue of death and suffering. He was never able to reconcile the existence of death, disease, and struggle with the character of a loving God:

I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice.[1]

Darwin was unable to understand why a loving Creator God would allow the horrible things he witnessed in nature and everyday life. Animals fed on one another; creatures ripped each other apart; women died in childbirth, etc. The world seemed heartless and cruel. Darwin’s eventual expansion of the concept of evolution seemed to provide a somewhat positive purpose for the suffering and death he could not explain.

Two of Darwin’s biographers went so far as to imply that...

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To: Filo; betty boop

Filo: Once the living material exists evolution provides the answer to how it becomes trees and rabbits and stupid ‘thumpers with ease.

LOL...in other words, “after the miracle, evolution explains the rest with ease.”

And as funny as that sounds, I would still like to challenge Filo to cite the evidence that macro-evolution has taken place, even if we assume the first proto-cell.


241 posted on 04/27/2009 5:47:42 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
LOL...in other words, “after the miracle, evolution explains the rest with ease.”

No, after abiogenesis Evolution takes over.

They are separate concepts, neither is a miracle.

And as funny as that sounds, I would still like to challenge Filo to cite the evidence that macro-evolution has taken place, even if we assume the first proto-cell.

You'd have to look at and understand the fossil record, the DNA record and comparative anatomy, for starters.

You don't need a doctorate in either, but you do need to grasp the concepts.

In other words, you should probably just forget about it and stick with your sky monsters.
242 posted on 04/27/2009 6:03:49 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Hey! Why was that last thread pulled? No explanation given!


243 posted on 04/27/2009 6:05:20 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Gordon Greene; Admin Moderator

I’m not sure. Let’s ask the Mods.

Does anyone know why the following was pulled???

“Missing Links Found: Walking Seal, Teen Tyrannosaur (more just-so stories from Temple of Darwin)”


244 posted on 04/27/2009 6:07:45 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; Admin Moderator

“Does anyone know why the following was pulled???

“Missing Links Found: Walking Seal, Teen Tyrannosaur (more just-so stories from Temple of Darwin)””

I know I’d like to know...


245 posted on 04/27/2009 6:09:36 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Admin Moderator

GGG,

You wouldn’t believe it, but this is what I was posting when I saw that thread go down...

“Gotta be honest with you... I’m probably going to read all of your posts on this subject because they are both interesting and entertaining. But I’m probably not going to comment on them anymore.

It’s not that I don’t enjoy the debate, it just makes me sick that I almost got the boot when I first started on this site because I didn’t support McCain yet all bets seem to be off when it comes to people ridiculing the Christian faith. You and I and others with the similar opinion are not just taken to task and debated, we are verbally attacked for our faith. Because of this I have at times become over-zealous in my answers and been a poor example of my Christian faith. I would think the moderators who so avidly defend the Republican party and the Constitution would be just as quick to defend the Christian faith that the Constitution was in large part based upon.

It’s not about whining or being thin-skinned. It’s about supporting what I believed was the focus of this. Maybe I was wrong about the focus...

This, to me should be a haven from the kind of Darwinism and Atheist rhetoric that we hear from the rest of the world everyday. The kind of thinking the Liberal theology is rooted in. At the very least the debate should be fair and fairly moderated.

Keep up the fight... GG”


246 posted on 04/27/2009 6:12:36 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Gordon Greene

It was pulled because it was a duplicate posted by the same poster.


247 posted on 04/27/2009 6:13:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Ahh...

Gotcha.

And as Rosanne Rosanna-Danna said...

“Never mind.”


248 posted on 04/27/2009 6:14:58 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Admin Moderator; Gordon Greene
That was my bad. The reason why I reposted the thread is because at the moment I posted the last one, the link went dead for several days because CEH changed servers. This can easily by seen by reading the replies on the original thread. So is it ok if we delete the last one and repost it today???

All the best—GGG

249 posted on 04/27/2009 6:21:05 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Admin Moderator

Given the explanation of what happened, can the original post be deleted and reposted as a new thread?


250 posted on 04/27/2009 6:31:37 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Gordon Greene

Very strange, the mod will not communicate with me. Oh well, I guess this one went down the memory hole. If you want to read the original (since it’s up and running again) go here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237005/posts


251 posted on 04/27/2009 6:38:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Filo; tpanther
“Darwin wasn't a god, he was a scientist …” [excerpt]
Darwin's formal education was in theology.

He was also an amateur naturalist.


If Darwin was a scientist, then so is every med school dropout turned theologian.

Sorry, no Gorebel prize for you.
252 posted on 04/27/2009 6:39:24 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thank you kindly... I shall peruse. May be because of a perceived rudeness in my reply. If so, sorry ‘bout that.

GG


253 posted on 04/27/2009 6:40:11 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Gordon Greene
“Very strange, the mod will not communicate with me.” [excerpt]
When they get busy they overlook incoming pings or whatever.

There was probably just a food fight in isle 3 or something.

254 posted on 04/27/2009 7:09:27 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: Fichori
Darwin's formal education was in theology.

I remember my theology classes. I'm glad he, too, was able to reject and escape that stupidity.

He was also an amateur naturalist.

How many "naturalists" are really paid for that?

If Darwin was a scientist, then so is every med school dropout turned theologian.

Nope. Scientific credentials are earned by doing science, not bong hits.

Some of those drop-outs may well be scientists much as many PhDs are not. . .

Sorry, no Gorebel prize for you.

Well thank God* for small favors, eh?


255 posted on 04/27/2009 7:09:37 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Filo; betty boop; CottShop; AndrewC

==No, after abiogenesis Evolution takes over.

You mean after your just-so miracle takes place, evolution takes it the rest of the way?

==They are separate concepts, neither is a miracle.

Neither abiogenesis, nor macro-evolution, has ever been observed in nature, or in the lab. And yet you stubbornly cling to the unscientific idea that one or both is true. Why is that Filo?

==You’d have to look at and understand the fossil record, the DNA record and comparative anatomy, for starters...You don’t need a doctorate in either, but you do need to grasp the concepts.

I’m pretty sure that I understand all of the above at least as much as you do. So go ahead and cite your best scientific evidence that macro-evolution has occurred.

==In other words, you should probably just forget about it and stick with your sky monsters.

LOL...as opposed to Darwood’s natural selection god?


256 posted on 04/27/2009 7:11:01 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Fichori; GodGunsGuts

“There was probably just a food fight in isle 3 or something.”

I’ve been on a diet for a couple of months now... please don’t mention food.

Just for the record, was it a cheeseburger???


257 posted on 04/27/2009 7:12:48 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Gordon Greene

Dream the impossible dream...just don’t act on it!


258 posted on 04/27/2009 7:15:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; Fichori

“Dream the impossible dream...just don’t act on it!”

In that case... it was a cheeseburger. A quadruple bacon cheeseburger with grilled onions and extra cheese. Oh, and extra bacon.

And ham. I mean A ham.

And I believe somebody just threw a bowl of chicken fettucine alfredo with mushrooms. Probably an atheist with no regard for my soul’s salvation.


259 posted on 04/27/2009 7:19:59 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Neither abiogenesis, nor macro-evolution, has ever been observed in nature, or in the lab. And yet you stubbornly cling to the unscientific idea that one or both is true. Why is that Filo?

Because, in spite of your ignorant assertions to the contrary, both have been observed.

The fossil record is filled with examples of speciation and the fact that there is life is proof of abiogenesis.

It's really pretty neat when you use your brain.

I’m pretty sure that I understand all of the above at least as much as you do. So go ahead and cite your best scientific evidence that macro-evolution has occurred.

No.

Again, I am not here to educate the ignorant. In your case, especially, that's pearls before swine.

If you have studied the above and can't see the light then nothing I write will ever sway you from your ignorance.

Thankfully not everyone is quite as thick-headed.

In any case, y'all have been great acting as balls of yarn to my inner kitten, but I have no more time to waste trying to save you from your own ignorance and idiocy.

I will, however, be sure to read and enjoy all of your parting shots.

All the best!
260 posted on 04/27/2009 7:20:33 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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