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Obama Tax Day Speech...Game, Set, Match Against Tea Parties
FR | 4-15-09 | Bob J

Posted on 04/15/2009 9:22:50 AM PDT by Bob J

I haven't even attended my local TP yet, but Obama has already pre-empted them with a speech that effectively moves the discussion away from the TP issues to his own, tax breaks (some) to the majority of taxpayers (50% don't pay any taxes at all), taking away tax breaks for the rich (resonates with most voters) and streamlining the tax code (won't happen but sounds good).

Sorry TP organizers, but you only have yourself to blame for framing these rallies based on taxes in general instead of focusing them on 1. the criminal activity that spawned the economic crisis, 2. out of control government borrowing, 3. the deficit and 4. who/how it is going to be paid.

Tea Party participants know what they are about, but those who don't won't have a clue and now Obama's comments will be thrown in the face of every point you try to make. If the purpose of the TP's was team building then that may still get accomplished, but if it was bringing your message to the masses then that might now get a little harder.

I hope I'm wrong, but the Obama Admin was ready for this and might have effectively muted the message and effectiveness of this first volley from the TP'ers.

A pilot has to know the condition of his ship.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhotyranny; bloviator; boviator; democrats; obama; obamafuscator; surrendervanity; taxday; teaparty
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To: Bob J; Jim Robinson
Jim posted to you also....

You didn't answer...

But you answered me...I think you are dodging his comments.

Handle that...........

101 posted on 04/15/2009 5:43:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Osage Orange

I know who posted to me, 98% were comments that didn’t imply a response...like yours and Jim’s.

If you got a question ask it. Maybe your number will come up and I’ll respond.


102 posted on 04/15/2009 5:53:10 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J; Jim Robinson
I know who posted to me, 98% were comments that didn’t imply a response...like yours and Jim’s.

If you got a question ask it. Maybe your number will come up and I’ll respond.

Oh, so you post on high.

And decide on high who warrants a response and who doesn't. GREAT!!

ROFLOL!! That's rich....

And you decide that the founder of the very place you are posting doesn't warrant a reply...EXCELLENT!!

My # is too high for you.......

103 posted on 04/15/2009 5:59:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Osage Orange

You still haven’t asked a question. If all you
want to do is rant, why not run down to your local Tea Party (I just got back from mine).

Oh, you didn’t attend a TP today? Why am I not surprised.


104 posted on 04/15/2009 6:02:45 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J
Hey Bob....I responded to your original post.

Deal with that.

I was in Tulsa, OK.........Deal with that.

Now deal with those replies that....oh wait, you deemed not worthy of your attention.

Never mind.........

105 posted on 04/15/2009 6:07:59 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Osage Orange

Again, you haven’t asked a question. If you have one, ask it, if not go harass someone else.


106 posted on 04/15/2009 6:15:28 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J; Jim Robinson
Again, you haven’t asked a question. If you have one, ask it, if not go harass someone else.

Well Bob....I didn't ask a question in post #82...but you responded to it..

So once again....why didn't you respond to JimRob too?

If you won't answer...fine. Just admit it....I've no problem with that.

107 posted on 04/15/2009 6:23:47 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Bob J
Seems to me Bob....that you don't reply to most replies.

You just cherry pick what you will and won't reply to.

Hell....you may as well be a Democrat.

108 posted on 04/15/2009 6:26:40 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Bob J

(Too often conservatives just want to lash out and they NEVER want to hear any agonizing appraisal or sober analysis of the effectiveness of their actions.

That’s why we keep making the same mistakes over and over.)

BTTT

I attended the Chicago Tea Party deep in the Messiah’s Kingdom. The planningChicago TP had some controversary two weeks ago. A local radio talk show host wanted to be MC of the TP. A long time IL conservative activist desired to be MC of the TP as well. In the end, both of them were rejected to be MC. As a result, the 2 men refused to attend the TP. They bad mouthed the TP the week before.

Conservatives need to stop engaging in petty conflicts with each other.


109 posted on 04/15/2009 7:53:07 PM PDT by yongin
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To: Tammy8

they don’t intend to ever pay off these debts. they just intent to service the interest


110 posted on 04/15/2009 11:30:55 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Bob J
"That's’s not how it was portrayed leading up to today, nor how it will be depicted after"

The only coverage I saw (very little) was mocking the tea parties, making jokes. Not any serious "journalism".

"except for Fox."

Fox has more of an audience than all the other "news networks" combined. What's your point?

111 posted on 04/16/2009 7:34:26 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: NoGrayZone

Fox is not a news network, it is a cable news show. Are you suggesting Fox has a larger audience than NBC, ABC and CBS?

It wasn’t a “point” it was an observation. The coverage from other TV and cable news sources was mostly negative ranging from moderately dismissive to absurd.

IMO while the backing and virtual sponsorship of the TP day from Fox single handidly contributed to a majority of it’s success, it did make the event appear as a Fox inspired tool.


112 posted on 04/16/2009 8:07:42 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J
"It wasn’t a “point” it was an observation. The coverage from other TV and cable news sources was mostly negative ranging from moderately dismissive to absurd."

Did you really expect them to cover it any other way?

"IMO while the backing and virtual sponsorship of the TP day from Fox single handidly contributed to a majority of it’s success, it did make the event appear as a Fox inspired tool."

So Fox should have NOT have reported it or encouraged participation? I'm sorry. I just don't understand what your beef is here.

113 posted on 04/16/2009 8:25:22 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: NoGrayZone

No. I find it amusing others did.

I don’t have an opinion on what Fox should have done, I was making an observation. If you have one, why don’t you post it.


114 posted on 04/16/2009 9:36:22 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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