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Obama Tax Day Speech...Game, Set, Match Against Tea Parties
FR | 4-15-09 | Bob J

Posted on 04/15/2009 9:22:50 AM PDT by Bob J

I haven't even attended my local TP yet, but Obama has already pre-empted them with a speech that effectively moves the discussion away from the TP issues to his own, tax breaks (some) to the majority of taxpayers (50% don't pay any taxes at all), taking away tax breaks for the rich (resonates with most voters) and streamlining the tax code (won't happen but sounds good).

Sorry TP organizers, but you only have yourself to blame for framing these rallies based on taxes in general instead of focusing them on 1. the criminal activity that spawned the economic crisis, 2. out of control government borrowing, 3. the deficit and 4. who/how it is going to be paid.

Tea Party participants know what they are about, but those who don't won't have a clue and now Obama's comments will be thrown in the face of every point you try to make. If the purpose of the TP's was team building then that may still get accomplished, but if it was bringing your message to the masses then that might now get a little harder.

I hope I'm wrong, but the Obama Admin was ready for this and might have effectively muted the message and effectiveness of this first volley from the TP'ers.

A pilot has to know the condition of his ship.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhotyranny; bloviator; boviator; democrats; obama; obamafuscator; surrendervanity; taxday; teaparty
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To: Bob J

The Constitutionally ineligible dufus can say whatever he wants, the message is getting around that he does completely the opposite of what he says.


21 posted on 04/15/2009 9:29:28 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Bob J

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER than words.


22 posted on 04/15/2009 9:29:38 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say NO to the $10 Trillion Ransom to DC)
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To: Bob J

Sorry Bob, I am at work and I did not see/hear BHO’s little Speech.

My Local Congress person will be aware of MORE THAN ONE ISSUE coming out of Tea Party.

We are NOT defined by Obama or the MSM.


23 posted on 04/15/2009 9:29:47 AM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Bob J

Riiight. Get ready to RUMMMBLE!!


24 posted on 04/15/2009 9:29:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: benjibrowder

25 posted on 04/15/2009 9:30:12 AM PDT by Stayfree ((HELP US EXPOSE THE "REAL" BIRTH CERTIFICATE @ REWARD FOR OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE.COM!))
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To: benjibrowder

IMO the TP message was too broad and using the Boston TP as a starting point was a miss step. Not focusing your message allows your opponents and the media to frame it how they wish and the will choose those that can be attacked the easiest.

Most people pay little or no taxes at all, just look at the most recent Rasmussen poll and how many think theirs are too little or just right. How do you start with a message that won’t be acceptd by a majority of the people? You end up looking like you’re defending the wealthiest.

The message should have been focused on the financial criminality, how no one is being investigated or prosecuted and who is going to pay for it (future generations). These messages would resonate with 90% of the people.


26 posted on 04/15/2009 9:30:20 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: CindyDawg
The TV has to be on to hear him.

I had the TV on, and the volume muted. I just watched his face, because I knew he was lying. The facial expressions do not lie.

27 posted on 04/15/2009 9:30:53 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Bob J

Obama coming out against the Tea Party rallies is probably the best endorsement we could get. Now we have more attention than ever.

Keep up the good work. Obama is down to +2 approval index according to Rasmussen, and it’s not even halfway through his first year.


28 posted on 04/15/2009 9:31:16 AM PDT by ksm1
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To: Bob J
Geesh Bob....it's the first inning, the game ain't over yet.

To be sure....the MSM / DBM will do what they do.

But come on....don't give up so early.

29 posted on 04/15/2009 9:32:25 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Bob J
I disagree with the assessment in the original post.

Regardless of what BHO says, it is apparent that government spending is out of control. High taxes are at least a subset of that problem.

30 posted on 04/15/2009 9:33:34 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: chris_bdba

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Business/wireStory?id=7330274


31 posted on 04/15/2009 9:33:53 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: benjibrowder

It should have ALL been about the spending, borrowing and deficit.

Tax policy is a losing argument for conservatives.


32 posted on 04/15/2009 9:34:06 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: jennyjenny
Unless he came up with the idea, he always thinks it’s a waste of time and effort.

I think it's a brilliant idea: focus on "criminality," before the Dems focus on "criminality" and distract us from the issue of taxes.
/sarc

33 posted on 04/15/2009 9:34:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ksm1
You're exactly right. If these parties weren't worrying him, he'd have no reason to preempt them the way he did. That alone makes them a success! His speech was lame.
34 posted on 04/15/2009 9:34:25 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Bob J

Bob, why don’t you call the organizer and file an official complaint? Sheesh. Here’s a freaking quarter already.

Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!


35 posted on 04/15/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Bob J
Most people pay little or no taxes at all,

Well....that's totally wrong.

36 posted on 04/15/2009 9:34:57 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Jim Robinson; Bob J

Amen!


37 posted on 04/15/2009 9:35:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Bob J
Oh, I dunno - anything that gets right-wingers out in the streets has these guys sweating bullets and it's fun to watch 'em squirm. The drumbeat of denial from the MSM has been hilarious. It's as if they're telling us "only we have a right to a populist movement."

It'll be good fun no matter what goes down. I don't think anybody is going to start swinging fists or anything like that unless it's the occasional provacateur. I do think it's a healthy thing to let the little liberal goose-steppers who are telling themselves that 147% of the world worships the ground Obama walks on that we're out there.

38 posted on 04/15/2009 9:35:33 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Red_Devil 232

“You and the MSM just don’t get it! Tyhe Tea Parties are not just about taxes!”

Thazt’s not how it was portrayed leading up to today, nor how it will be depicted after...except for Fox.


39 posted on 04/15/2009 9:35:42 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J

I hope there will be some signs reminding people of the 6 billion of our tax dollars going to ACORN, the left wing radicals.


40 posted on 04/15/2009 9:35:42 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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