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Wind power is a complete disaster
Financial Post ^ | 2009-04-09 | Michael J. Trebilcock

Posted on 04/09/2009 4:57:48 AM PDT by Clive

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1 posted on 04/09/2009 4:57:48 AM PDT by Clive
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2 posted on 04/09/2009 4:58:44 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

btt


3 posted on 04/09/2009 5:00:07 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: All

The attraction of wind power is that it looks like getting something for nothing.

TANSTAAFL


4 posted on 04/09/2009 5:00:21 AM PDT by Clive
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Whenever the dem/rats/dbm bring up the wind/solar argument I simply say,"great", let's do it all.

But don't stop drilling or building nuke plants unless you want $200 per barrel oil. Making that argument always brings out their true issue which is how they hate the oil companies.It always emotional and never rational with these assclowns.

Truth is they don't want energy security or clean power they want control.

5 posted on 04/09/2009 5:01:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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"Denmark, the world's most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power's unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone)."

Yikes. Thats gonna hurt.

6 posted on 04/09/2009 5:05:01 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Clive

for later


7 posted on 04/09/2009 5:05:48 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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Once you add on the additional economic activity necessary to pay the taxes which provide the subsidies, you are talking about triple the CO2 production for every megawatt of electricity produced.


8 posted on 04/09/2009 5:08:02 AM PDT by gridlock (Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.)
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"The U. S. Energy Information Administration reported in 2008, on a dollar per MWh basis, the U. S. government subsidizes wind at $23.34 -- compared to reliable energy sources: natural gas at 25¢; coal at 44¢; hydro at 67¢; and nuclear at $1.59, leading to what some U. S. commentators call "a huge corporate welfare feeding frenzy." The Wall Street Journal advises that "wind generation is the prime example of what can go wrong when the government decides to pick winners." "

No $hit wind is too expensive and to unpredictable.

9 posted on 04/09/2009 5:09:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: icwhatudo

The US has come closer to meeting the Kyoto Protocol targets than any signatory nation in the Industrialized West.

But do we get credit for that? Noooooooooooo!


10 posted on 04/09/2009 5:10:31 AM PDT by gridlock (Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.)
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I wonder if T Boone Pickens will respond to this study. He's doing his best to ram this boondoggle through the government.
11 posted on 04/09/2009 5:10:39 AM PDT by mimaw
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OK, so windmills don’t cause a net reduction in carbon emissions.

They do, however, grind up those pesky birds. LaGuardia Airport should consider building a few dozen of them.


12 posted on 04/09/2009 5:11:57 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (UNC: The University of National Champions 1957-1982-1993-2005-2009)
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I live close enough to IH-10 corridor in Texas where we see truck after truck hauling huge wind generator rotors to W. Texas. Windpower has a HUGE footprint, very inefficient compared to what it produces, not includig maintenance, roads graded, pads for the plant, power connections. I’ve never heard an envirowacko speak of these things but don’t you DARE suggest cutting or even maintaning a forest service road, oh no, that’s terrible.

But after all, they cover many square miles of sonoran desert, mesa tops, sage, greasewood, so who cares, right? I care. I only hope that the landowners are being compensated handsomely, somebody needs to benefit and the ranchers I know sure could use it.

I guess one can also appreciate that the industry it built up utilizes synthetics (fiberglass, plastics) which last I knew is based on petroleum products. The irony of it all is wonderful.


13 posted on 04/09/2009 5:14:15 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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Bookmarked.


14 posted on 04/09/2009 5:14:50 AM PDT by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: Clive

It’s the government preference for politically correct elections that kills the market. Nature doesn’t distinguish between electrons, they all look and act the same. But run a diesel truck, pay some people to stand around and watch a guy climb the tower and replace bearings, fabricate and run lots of extra copper to collect the electrons and distribute them long distance to less windy areas, all that crap wastes money and real energy that an end-user could be using. It’s just another way of digging holes and filling them back in, except much more expensive and resource wasting.


15 posted on 04/09/2009 5:15:51 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: mimaw

T. Boone Pickens is looking to make a bundle.

Ya know, it doesnt take a study or even factual reporting of the failure of wind power to teel us that it doesnt work. Common sense should tell us that. Trying to get our democrat politicians to open their minds to the fact that there is no free alternative energy source is like trying to jump to the moon.

We are going to need Oil and coal for another 100 years no matter what they do and refusing to drill for it or use it is just plain ignorance.


16 posted on 04/09/2009 5:17:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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Do not argue about reducing carbon emissions.

The whole concept is bogus. The carbon emission problems can best be eliminated by extermination of those beating this dead horse


17 posted on 04/09/2009 5:17:33 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . John Galt hell !...... where is Francisco dÂ’Anconia)
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Wind Power is a lot like communism.

Yes, it's expensive now but later it will be better.
Yes, it's unpredictable now, but later it will be better.
Yes, it has a big carbon footprint now, but later it will be better.

The revolution is always going to be far more successful ... next time.

18 posted on 04/09/2009 5:18:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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“But the Europeons just aren’t doing it right.”

“They don’t have the right person in charge yet.”

(/off commie speak)


19 posted on 04/09/2009 5:19:32 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Zero: I don't care about the country as long as I'm in charge. Forever.)
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“and viewsheds.”

Can’t recall having seen that word before. Is it a relatively new word?


20 posted on 04/09/2009 5:21:07 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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