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Salvia: more powerful than LSD, and legal
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | April 6, 2009 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 04/06/2009 11:40:17 AM PDT by Schnucki

Salvia divinorum - aka the 'YouTube drug' - is banned in many countries around the world, but not in Britain. Is it as harmless as its users claim?

In a cluttered living room in south London, Lee Hogan, a sound engineer and part-time disc jockey, perches on the edge of a cheap leather armchair and bends his head towards a glass water pipe. A friend, kneeling on the floor, holds the stem of the pipe and uses a cigarette lighter to burn a tea-smelling herb. The herb glows red, and as it does so, Hogan places his mouth over the aperture of the pipe (better known as a 'bong' to those in the know). He breathes in deeply, taking a lung-full of smoke.

It's the way that many people choose to inhale marijuana, but this weed is far more potent and far more harmful. Hogan is smoking salvia divinorum, a species of sage that also happens to be the most powerful hallucinogenic herb known to man. It's also perfectly legal.

It doesn't take long for the effects to take hold. Seconds after breathing in the smoke, Hogan leans back in his chair and lets out a deep, slightly manic laugh. He hugs himself and starts to giggle. The giggle then transforms into a whimper, which, in turn, becomes a series of high-pitched squeaks. He is trying to talk, but makes no sense whatsoever. Then, mouth hanging wide open, he looks around the room. His eyes have glazed over and he doesn't seem to know where he is. As he slowly manoeuvres himself in his chair, his head rocking from side to side, he looks like a man who has just been hit over the skull by an iron bar.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drugs; salvia
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1 posted on 04/06/2009 11:40:17 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki
What a crock.

Dried banana peels are just as hallucinogenic.

2 posted on 04/06/2009 11:43:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: Schnucki

Salvia is nothing to spit at. Let me tell you.


3 posted on 04/06/2009 11:45:48 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people ----- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Schnucki
"I thought I was doomed!' Of course, if this was the experience of everyone who smoked salvia, it wouldn't have much of a following"

"of course" not. that's the point about drugs, people go back time after time even though they have bad experiences.
4 posted on 04/06/2009 11:46:37 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Schnucki
His eyes have glazed over and he doesn't seem to know where he is. As he slowly manoeuvres himself in his chair, his head rocking from side to side, he looks like a man who has just been hit over the skull by an iron bar.

Obama voter!

5 posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:01 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hey, those work, man. You just have to get the part of the peel that's under the sticker.



Anyone who understood what we just said is too old.

6 posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:08 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Spider webs too!


7 posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:23 AM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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To: Schnucki

“Seconds after breathing in the smoke, Hogan leans back in his chair and lets out a deep, slightly manic laugh. He hugs himself and starts to giggle. The giggle then transforms into a whimper, which, in turn, becomes a series of high-pitched squeaks. He is trying to talk, but makes no sense whatsoever. Then, mouth hanging wide open, he looks around the room. His eyes have glazed over and he doesn’t seem to know where he is. As he slowly manoeuvres himself in his chair, his head rocking from side to side, he looks like a man who has just been hit over the skull by an iron bar. “

He then went out and cast an absentee ballot for Barack H. Obama.


8 posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:55 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Schnucki
It doesn't take long for the effects to take hold. Seconds after breathing in the smoke, Hogan leans back in his chair and lets out a deep, slightly manic laugh. He hugs himself and starts to giggle. The giggle then transforms into a whimper, which, in turn, becomes a series of high-pitched squeaks. He is trying to talk, but makes no sense whatsoever. Then, mouth hanging wide open, he looks around the room. His eyes have glazed over and he doesn't seem to know where he is. As he slowly manoeuvres himself in his chair, his head rocking from side to side, he looks like a man who has just been hit over the skull by an iron bar.

Finally, an explanation for Al Gore.

9 posted on 04/06/2009 11:49:08 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Schnucki

That sounds like Brian Williams and Keith Olbermann reading a story about Dopey-Changey selling the nation to the UN.


10 posted on 04/06/2009 11:56:24 AM PDT by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

The nice thing is that the experience ends in 5-10 minutes, you’re going to have a ‘bad trip’ that lasts for hours on end. The smoke is murder on your lungs though ...


11 posted on 04/06/2009 12:03:20 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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To: eclecticEel
you’re not going to have a ‘bad trip’ that lasts for hours on end ahem, correction.
12 posted on 04/06/2009 12:04:33 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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To: Schnucki
It doesn't take long for the effects to take hold. Seconds after breathing in the smoke, Hogan leans back in his chair and lets out a deep, slightly manic laugh. He hugs himself and starts to giggle. The giggle then transforms into a whimper, which, in turn, becomes a series of high-pitched squeaks.

Oh. That'll impress the chicks!

13 posted on 04/06/2009 12:05:24 PM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: Schnucki

Only the weak need to get high. Pathetic.


14 posted on 04/06/2009 12:06:30 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Schnucki

Well, we already have datura. No need for this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura

“Due to the potent combination of anticholinergic substances it contains, Datura intoxication typically produces effects similar to that of an anticholinergic delirium: a complete inability to differentiate reality from fantasy (frank delirium, as contrasted to hallucination); hyperthermia; tachycardia; bizarre, and possibly violent behavior; and severe mydriasis with resultant painful photophobia that can last several days. Pronounced amnesia is another commonly reported effect.

According to the drug information site Erowid, no other substance has received as many “Train Wreck” severely negative experience reports as has Datura[11], noting that “the overwhelming majority of those who describe to us their use of Datura (and to a lesser extent, Belladonna, Brugmansia and Brunfelsia) find their experiences extremely mentally and physically unpleasant and not infrequently physically dangerous.”


15 posted on 04/06/2009 12:12:50 PM PDT by postoak
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To: Schnucki

This stuff will be made illegal by the end of the year. It has no purpose but to get people tripped out stoned.

Unfortunately it will probably take some indirectly related deaths to happen.

There is no question that if you operate any vehicle on this stuff that someone is going to get hurt.


16 posted on 04/06/2009 12:18:59 PM PDT by clippedwing
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To: Schnucki
"He is trying to talk, but makes no sense whatsoever. Then, mouth hanging wide open, he looks around the room. His eyes have glazed over and he doesn't seem to know where he is."

I call that The Obama Effect!

17 posted on 04/06/2009 12:20:50 PM PDT by dokmad
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To: Schnucki; gardengirl; Diana in Wisconsin; Grammy

Huh? I grow a red flowering plant called Salvia in my window boxes.

Maybe this is why my cat Tsali is so crazy.


18 posted on 04/06/2009 12:34:16 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Schnucki
As someone who devoted youthful years to research: BS!
19 posted on 04/06/2009 12:39:20 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Schnucki

I’m getting old . . . I thought it read SALIVA more powerful than LSD. No wonder I think we have a Kenyan Citizen as a US President, the Banks have been Bailed Out, and the Unions control the White House, etc. It’s all in the saliva.


20 posted on 04/06/2009 1:03:38 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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