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Cap-and-trade traded away?
Hot Air ^ | 10:51 am on March 21, 2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/22/2009 7:38:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

George Stephanopolous reported yesterday that Senate Democrats forced Barack Obama to choose between two break-the-bank policies for this year.  The White House apparently surrendered on cap-and-trade in order to get started on a massive overhaul of the nation’s health-care delivery system.  Stephanopolous refers to the dilemma as a classic “scorpion in the bottle” problem:

When the White House released its budget, I said the president’s effort to reform health care and cap carbon emissions were “scorpions in a bottle” — only one could make it through Congress this year.

This week, the White House and House Democrats made their choice: health care is the survivor.

As the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post have reported, House Democrats (backed by the White House) plan to write a budget resolution that allows health care to be passed by a simple majority (through the so-called “reconciliation” process) if a bipartisan compromise isn’t reached by September.

Cap and trade will not get the same budget protection, and there are nowhere  near 60 votes for it.  Keeping it out of the reconciliation process recognizes reality: Congress can’t pass it in the middle of a recession.

Stephanopolous notes that Democrats in the House made this choice, but it’s really all about the Senate.  Obama thinks he can get a few moderate Republicans to go along on health care reform, probably more than just the Porkulus 3, if he steers a centrist course.  Cap-and-trade has problems even among Democrats, especially in the Rust Belt and in coal-producing areas, and its impact on the economy makes it a non-starter in this session of Congress.

Even the health-care effort will get curtailed, likely as a result of the massive government spending already undertaken by Democrats this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhoenergy; capandtrade; climatechange; crapandtrade; healthcare; miserablefailure; obama

1 posted on 03/22/2009 7:38:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Free” socialist healthcare is a politically correct form of genocide.


2 posted on 03/22/2009 7:41:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Mom always said, "Never just anyone whose name can't be spelled backwards." Like Soros.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good news, but the health care will completely destroy the country on it’s own. Once it passes, there is no recovery without a whole bunch of things that we’re not supposed to talk about on FR.


3 posted on 03/22/2009 7:41:40 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The budget is still too expensive with only one thing left in it! Not no but h*ll no!


4 posted on 03/22/2009 7:49:20 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ed Morrissey says the GOP is “licking its chops” over the 2010 mid-term election.

Good luck.

Who's going to lead?

McCain? Steele? Huckabee? Palin? Jindal? Romney? Gingrich? David Frum and the “New” Republicans?

Without serious, principled, and highly disciplined leadership, the GOP is going straight to the political graveyard.

5 posted on 03/22/2009 7:51:03 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Politically astute. The global warming fraud is unravelling, and any cap-and-trade system would be much easier to dismantle in 2011, when Congress reverts to Republican control (which is now highly probable.)


6 posted on 03/22/2009 7:51:19 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When the White House released its budget, I said the president’s effort to reform health care and cap carbon emissions were “scorpions in a bottle” — only one could make it through Congress this year.

That's this year. Or maybe not. There can always be a "Global Climate Change Crisis" once the health care system is well on the road to Hell.

7 posted on 03/22/2009 7:57:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Once it passes, there is no recovery without a whole bunch of things that we’re not supposed to talk about on FR.

Good emergency care is especially important when some of those things happen.

8 posted on 03/22/2009 7:59:07 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp

Good post. They still haven’t realized THEY BOTH BREAK THE BANK.


9 posted on 03/22/2009 8:07:17 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (my tagline is over-stimulated)
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To: zeestephen
Nonsense!

It has been rare, in history, for Congressional campaigns to be “nationalized” -—

For the most part, Tip O’neil was right, “politics is local” -—

There is a good chance that 2010 WILL be more of a referendum on Obama than usual, for a mid term election.

However, each race can and will be determined on its own, and the “leader” for the Republicans, in each district, will be decided by the Republicans IN THAT DISTRICT!

There NEVER has been a Republican “General” in charge of every Congressional race.

Most Republicans would gag at such control or command.

Our job is to recruit candidates, where the sitting Republican is not acceptable, and to find a good conservative to run against every sitting Democrat.

10 posted on 03/22/2009 8:18:20 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Myrddin

Yeah, sure. Everyone will be rushing to the enemy for medical attention. Because the socialists are just soooo humane...


11 posted on 03/22/2009 8:18:53 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Universal Health Care = Socialized Medicine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE4DRML0S3U&feature=related


12 posted on 03/22/2009 8:23:42 PM PDT by rgr
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For crying out loud!

If folks would just read the Kyoto treaty they would see the whole game is about redistributing America’s wealth and shuting down it’s industry.


13 posted on 03/22/2009 8:25:12 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: zeestephen

“Without serious, principled, and highly disciplined leadership, the GOP is going straight to the political graveyard.”

If this isn’t a false move to get us to put down our pitchforks, it shows that the establishment is bringing pressure on Obama to back it down a bit. They are on the defensive, and don’t like it. Nutless republicans they can handle. But all this continual focus on their corruption and looting isn’t what they want. You know the congress is really hearing it in their offices.

So now Barack’s Brownshirts want to give our children uniforms and ship our elderly off to camps, I mean campuses. The lawsuits and who knows what else is really going to fly after King O, Queen Nancy, Prince Harry and Barney the happy jester try to impose this Nazi style remembrance on the general public. Nothing will anger people at our fool president and his band of thieves faster than taking their children and parents away.

The heat is rising on them and they must be feeling it, even though they still have a gushing media and millions of brainwashed fools. No administration, not even the polarizing ones hated by their enemies; W’s and Clinton’s were circulating this degree of dread and fear so fast.

The GOP could run the sawed off back end of a goat’s carcass and people would vote for them next year. The only issue is whether we will have the amnesty voters on the rolls and whether the election is legitimate.


14 posted on 03/22/2009 8:29:47 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: zeestephen
Ed Morrissey says the GOP is “licking its chops” over the 2010 mid-term election. Good luck. Who's going to lead? McCain? Steele? Huckabee? Palin? Jindal? Romney? Gingrich? David Frum and the “New” Republicans? Without serious, principled, and highly disciplined leadership, the GOP is going straight to the political graveyard.

By 2010 the country is going to be ready to pick random people off the street for Congress.
15 posted on 03/22/2009 8:42:34 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
'scorpions in a bottle'

More like turds in the U-pipe.


16 posted on 03/22/2009 8:50:48 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Luke21
and whether the election is legitimate.

Now that is where there is a problem...

17 posted on 03/22/2009 8:50:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: zeestephen

Don’t wait for 2010. There are some elections for open seats that need to become high profile conservative wins. High enough profile to scare those rare DINOs in congress and to make the more numerous RINOs there more scared of us + Rush than of Obama + MSM. We need to minimize the bleeding now! We also need to recruit and fund enough primary opponents to keep the RINOs scared. We won’t defeat all of them, but if the remaining mushy moderates feel enough heat coming from the right their voting records will improve.


18 posted on 03/22/2009 9:05:10 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fiddlstix; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; ..
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

19 posted on 03/23/2009 3:44:07 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Most bad government results from too much government." - Thomas Jefferson)
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