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The Dirty Little Secret Is Out: Religious Faith and Evolution Are Incompatible
ICR ^ | March 20, 2009 | Frank Sherwin, M.A.

Posted on 03/20/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

In a recent book review, Jerry Coyne, professor of ecology and evolution at the University of Chicago, admitted that the secular worldview of macroevolution (the development of complex life from “simpler” forms) is at odds with Christian faith...

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KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; corruption; creation; darwin; darwinism; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; jerrycoyne; judeo; judeochristian; moralabsolutes; neenerhijack; religion
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To: spyone

Only a fool says there is no God.


41 posted on 03/20/2009 8:32:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This “professor” must not be a Catholic. Catholicism says evolution is a scientific fact. As a Catholic, I’m fine with this because evolution is a fact of life.


42 posted on 03/20/2009 8:32:21 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: broncobilly
Why are so many so certain that God would not have used evolution for his creation process? As Isaiah quoted God, “My thoughts are not your thoughts.”

I like Sir Isaac Newton: "Nature's Laws are God's thoughts." I wouldn't expect brightboy Coyne here to understand.

43 posted on 03/20/2009 8:32:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: GodGunsGuts
The dirty little secrete, you have a really large obsession.
44 posted on 03/20/2009 8:33:03 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: starlifter

Those weren’t hte only children conceived by Adam and Eve. Man and woman were created with pure genes- no mutaitons- (and htis has been confirmed by a secular genetic investigaiton which foudn that hte further they traced the mtdna back, the purer it became)- As such, inbreeding did not have the dire consequences that we have today, and children born to a sister brother relationship were not genetically altered liek htye woudl be today- hence the taboo today on relations between close relatives. As the genetic code became corrupted via mutations (brought on by sin mind you- before hte fall, there was no problem), there came a tiem when relations of close relatives was no logner a viable means of populating hte earth with viable offspring, and it was then forbidden.


45 posted on 03/20/2009 8:33:33 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: All

Why Evolution is impossible-

Evolution: Possible or impossible:

http://www.creationsafaris.com/epoi_toc.htm


46 posted on 03/20/2009 8:36:36 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: broncobilly
Why are so many so certain that God would not have used evolution for his creation process?

Why are so many so certain God could not have used creation for His creation process?

As Isaiah quoted God, “My thoughts are not your thoughts.”

Well, if God's thoughts are not man's thoughts, then man's thoughts about evolution are wrong cause God told us in Genesis that He spoke creation into existence.

I just love how evos say that religion has no place in Scripture and that you can't prove God and then turn around and try to use Scripture to support evolution.

47 posted on 03/20/2009 8:37:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: starlifter
I also love Bible “scholars” who believe it is both literal and metaphorical, depending on their needs.

You sneer out of disbelief. The Bible does have both literal and metaphorical meaning. It also has past, present and future meaning. How to explain to a scoffer? Well, I guess starting out by saying that those old Rabbis were just into that sort of thing. So was Isaac Newton.

I, myself, love scientific "scholars" who profess to know where the center of the universe is located, such as yourself in a previous exchange.

So, starlifter, just where is the center of the universe? I've been on pins and needles for a month.

48 posted on 03/20/2009 8:37:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: org.whodat; GodGunsGuts

“The dirty little secrete, you have a really large obsession.”

What’s a “dirty little secrete”?

Sounds nasty to me... you might wanna have a doctor take a look at that.


49 posted on 03/20/2009 8:38:03 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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To: spyone
The world is more than 6500 yrs. old. There are 70 branches of science that testify to this.

What are they?

How do they testify to that?

50 posted on 03/20/2009 8:38:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gumdrop

Then why does Genesis specifically say that God formed man from the dust of the earth instead of God formed man from the animals He created?


51 posted on 03/20/2009 8:39:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

How did death enter into the world? Through sin, as Scripture clearly teaches, or as a benevolent gift from God that produced humans?


52 posted on 03/20/2009 8:41:58 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: starlifter

Um, try reading the Bible first.

Gen 5:1-5 This is the written account of Adam’s line.
When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female and blessed them. And when they were created, he called them “man.”

When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.


53 posted on 03/20/2009 8:45:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

FRevos are just befuddled by begats, metmom.


54 posted on 03/20/2009 8:47:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: GodGunsGuts

[macroevolution (the development of complex life from “simpler” forms) is at odds with Christian faith]

No it’s not.


55 posted on 03/20/2009 8:47:37 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


56 posted on 03/20/2009 8:49:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: broncobilly
Why are so many so certain that God would not have used evolution for his creation process?

How about cuz the Bible says so...

57 posted on 03/20/2009 8:49:48 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Natural Law; All

This is where folks like Coyne screw up and corrupt their own science. They make the leap from theoretical science in saying that science has disproved a tautology and that there would always be irreconcilable differences between science(esp. evolution) and religion. The arguements for the existence of God is a tautology; while there might be some plausible arguements for it, there is no way to prove the notion testable true or false.

Where logical scientific thinking falls apart, are pre-biased assumptions that any tautologous notion must automatically be presumed “FALSE!”.

True scientific logical methodology if adhered to correctly, can not make detirminations on the truth or falsity on the existence of God or even as to his influence on the development of life on the Earth. For any scientist to declare that there is no God based on evolutionary investigation and accepted “scientific” thought would be tantemount to this person leaving the realm of science to set up shop as a sooth saying sophist and palm reader!


58 posted on 03/20/2009 8:52:11 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: metmom
Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.

I bet he looked like Don Imus.

59 posted on 03/20/2009 8:54:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Secret Agent Man

Agreed. Only a fool says the world is 6500 yrs. old.


60 posted on 03/20/2009 8:56:15 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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