Change We Can Believe In: How About the End of Farmers Markets?

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[truthfinder9]

What this will do is force anyone who produces food of any kind, and then transports it to a different location for sale, to register with a new federal agency called the “Food Safety Administration.” Even growers who sell just fruit and/or vegetables at farmers markets would not only have to register, but they would be subject inspections by federal agents of their property and all records related to food production. The frequency of these inspections will be determined by the whim of the Food Safety Administration. Mandatory “safety” records would have to be kept. Anyone who fails to register and comply with all of this nonsense could be facing a fine of up to $1,000,000 per violation.

I’ve bought food at several farmers markets for years and I have yet to meet any vendors who are fond of the government. I think it’s pretty safe to say that most vendors at farmers markets won’t go along with this. The problem will be that the people who run the farmers markets will be forced to make sure that vendors are “registered” with the government.

Is this Change we can believe in? Maybe it is for Obama’s Secretary of Agriculture, Tom “I Fly with Monsanto” Vilsack.

For the rest of us, this is a nightmare.

What is the legislation called? H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009:

[Sybeck1]

Growing up I used to sell corn out of my dad’s truck. Man, I miss the 80’s.

[Red_Devil 232]

Gardening Ping

[Terry Mross]

Bought some fresh vegetables and fruit from a guy on the side of the road in Rhode Island. Said his grandson was the 7th generation to live on the land going back to the 1700’s. He “moved” the food from one part of the land to another part. Wonder if he’s included.

I buy fresh vegetables every year. The reason they’re so much better than “store bought” is the fact that they AREN’T put the through the mill by the government.

[truth_seeker]

Farmers’ Markets are pretty popular in America’s Number 1 agriculture state-California.

http://www.localharvest.org/search.jsp?st=5&ty=1&nm=

I would say if somebody visited these markets, a lot of voters pushed the Obama chad.

I also expect they would want him to leave their little markets alone.

They will probably opine that their markets supply food that is much safer than the chain grocery stores.

[FlashBack]

Gov. ‘Will Tax’ (one of my nicer names) left our State in a financial mess and now he’s going nation-wide...ugh!

[Pallas]

This could inspire even the crunchy granola liberals to form a pitchfork platoon! They might find themselves shoulder to shoulder with the Amish! “Throw me down the stairs my pitchfork, Springblossom, Gott that is a veird name you haf!” LOL.

[Uncle Miltie]

Civil Disobedience Ping!

[brownsfan]

This is good. The more people that have their lives disrupted, even ruined by Obama, that will just be more people who won’t vote Democrat again anytime soon.

And while many farmers are conservatives, Obama had to get a substatial number of votes from farmers.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

This is ‘change’ that’s going to push us even FURTHER underground and develop a Black Market for fruits and vegetables.

I’ll go down swinging, as will the market growers, farmers, dairymen and milk/herbal soap makers I have as friends and those I sell to at my garden center.

I printed out and read the ENTIRE H.R.875 the other day. I’m not TOO worried as I highlighted the things that would harm local growers and markets. There were only a few sentences that deserved highlighting, so time will tell what the actual bill will look like when it’s in final form. Wonder if it’ll get any debate on the Senate floor? I kinda doubt it, the way things are sneaked past us in the wee hours by THE WORST CONGRESS EVER these days. Grrrrr!

Forewarned is forearmed. I’ll be passing out copies to any of my customers concerned enough to read one. :)

[the anti-liberal]

The farmer’s market here in Ashland, OR is a pretty big deal every year - and everyone in this town voted for the big Zero. It’ll be interesting to see how they respond.

[JerseyHighlander]

Insight into society

Domesday Book reveals an elaborate feudal structure of landholding from the King down. Under the feudal system land was supposedly held directly or indirectly from the King who stood at the top of the feudal ladder. The King granted land called fiefs to the tenants-in-chief beneath him - his chief barons, bishops and abbots. This was partly as a reward for helping him to conquer the kingdom, partly to keep their loyalty, and partly to ensure that certain difficult geographical areas were being securely held for him. In return he received their loyalty and service. This service usually came in the form of supplying the King with a number of men-at-arms and knights for a specific period should he wish to raise an army. In turn the barons could parcel out the land given to them to their own sub-tenants who likewise owed them loyalty and service – again usually military. Domesday is thus more than a legal and fiscal document. It is also a feudal record in which the description of the land follows the feudal hierarchy.

The social hierarchy with the King at the top. Under the feudal system he granted lands to his tenants-in-chief below in return for various services, usually military. The tenants-in-chief likewise granted lands to their tenants (sub-tenants).

Apart from the feudal structure Domesday also gives the

• Names of landholders in each county
• Manors which they held and their values
• Names of their sub-tenants
• Names of many boroughs and details of their customs
• Number of freemen, sokemen, unfree peasants and slaves on each manor
• Resources of each manor

By analysing the vast amounts of information we discover that in 1086 that:

• The King and his family held 17% of the land
• The bishops and abbots held 26% of the land
• Around 190 lay tenants held about 54% of the land
• Of the lay tenants, 12 or so leading barons controlled almost a quarter of the land
• There were only two Anglo-Saxon tenants-in-chief: Thorkhill of Arden and Coleswain of Lincoln with large estates
• The two most important women mentioned, Edward the Confessor’s widow and William’s queen, were both dead
• The most prominent living woman was Countess Judith, a niece of King William

Domesday Book provides details of:

• 13,418 places
• 48 castles including Windsor
• 112 boroughs
• Over 60 major religious houses
• Over 300 parish churches
• Around 6,000 mills (but no windmills)
• About 45 vineyards
• Various woodlands
• Numerous markets
• Several mints
• Inland and coastal fisheries
• And some industry including salt pans, lead working, quarries and potteries

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/domesday/discover-domesday/interpreting-domesday.htm

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We have new masters, but this specific form of oppression is a thousand years old in the Anglo-Saxon Western world.  Our great great grandchildren will have to fight once again for Magna Carta liberties.

[freekitty]

I have never seen a good one in Houston; but I remember good ones in Mineral Wells or Weatherford and somewhere in Dallas. I also remember those fabulous strawberries in Fresno, oranges, grapefruit and tomatoes.

[Gabz]

I don’t think this thing is going to go away anytime soon.........

Garden Ping.

[The Californian]

garden bump

[JerseyHighlander]

LX Aldit LXI Goduinus Haldenus LXII Starcolfus LXIII Etdricus ancipitarius LXIIII De liberis hominibus regis ad nullam firmam pertinentibus LXV De dominicis hominibus regis LXVI De invasionibus It is curious that Kent or Chenth as it is called and the other counties in the first volume of the Domesday Book commence with a survey of the chief town or towns of the shire whereas the three counties in the second volume begin with the list of chief tenants The Terra Regis or King's Land is first noticed then the hundred the name of the tenant and of the place afterwards the detailed survey or description of the property condensed into a few lines averaging from four to ten but the diction arrangement and extent of the account is not the same in all counties nor could this amount of uniformity be expected in treating so vast an area as that covered by the Domesday Book Naturally some property was underrated by accident or fraud some on the other hand was overrated but not with any design of oppression Generally speaking fairness and equity was maintained Even the Clamores and Invasiones claims between Norman and Norman on the king's gift are stated without prejudice the list which comes at the end of each county setting forth the lands held without a title from King William by invaders or intruders G 2 CONTENTS OF THE DOMESDAY BOOK 83 Domesday Book A Popular Account of the Exchequer Manuscript So Called, with Notices of the Principal Points of General Interest which it Contains By Walter de Gray Birch, Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain). General Literature Committee

The fact that the survey is neither quite complete in its notice of all tenures liable to the king's tax nor correct in always omitting the lands which did not pay this geld has been often mentioned The names and extent of the hundreds have undergone some changes which Ellis thinks great but they are hardly greater than the place names of the parishes and manors themselves The works of the late Rev RW Eyton relating to the Domesdays of Somersetshire Dorsetshire and Staffordshire of the late Rev WHR Jones for Wiltshire not to mention others equally valuable as modern treatises on this Record will be found to indicate changes in the names of places quite as remarkable for their variety as are the names of the hundreds throughout the book Some manors have been transferred from one hundred to another or at any rate are now and for long time past have been thus dislocated Or perhaps the case may be stated differently thus that the places are entered under a wrong hundred in the manuscript A complete list of hundreds wapentakes which take the place of hundreds in Lincolnshire Nottinghamshire and York as local sub divisions rapes in Sussex and lasts in Kent would be a valuable and a welcome record of the political organisation of the land courts but this is a work which still remains to be undertaken by a Domesday student These areas take their name frequently from a tree a thorn a ford a stone a ditch or dyke a Maw or low ie a mound or tumulus or some such natural feature but not to the exclusion of other prominent or widely known spots where the members of the hundred the 84 DOMESDAY BOOK Domesday Book A Popular Account of the Exchequer Manuscript So Called, with Notices of the Principal Points of General Interest which it Contains By Walter de Gray Birch, Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain). General Literature Committee

[freekitty]

I would say a few big surprises not in the line of hope and change his voters thought; but he will put a big old vegatable garden in at the WH to smack you across the face.

This guy and his wife are degenerates.

[Luke21]

I have heard that they will eventually try to apply this monstrosity to backyard gardens, to control the growing of food. Funny that the SRM (state run media) came out with a story praising Michelle’s plans for a garden today.

[Gabz]

There were only a few sentences that deserved highlighting, so time will tell what the actual bill will look like when it’s in final form.

And there in lies the problem..........

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Here’s the House Resolution in printable form. And, yes, your eyes WILL glaze over, so best to read it during morning hours with a fresh pot of coffee at your elbow. ;)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875

Also note: the DEMOCRAT CongressRat that introduced this resolution is MARRIED to a guy who is high up in the Food Chain at Monsanto!

Yep. The huge-mongus seed company that’s been systematically working to put everyday farmers out of business for the past few decades. Grrrrr!