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Obama Not Making Any Friends With Veterans (The blowback will bring Zero down)
KXnet.com ^ | 3-16-09

Posted on 03/16/2009 9:47:34 PM PDT by utahson

A few days ago I posted about the Obama administration’s plan to rob soldiers of some of their medical benefits. Today the head of the American Legion (the nation’s largest veterans organization) paid a visit to Obama to talk about the issue, and he didn’t leave happy.Normally I am a staunch advocate of limited government and privatization. But in this instance we have troops who served their country, often in awful war zones that left them scarred and maimed, and they did so with the assumption that medical care would be one of the benefits they’d receive as compensation. The government has no business trying to opt out of that.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bama; armedforces; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; bhoveterans; democrats; marxism; military; neomarxism; obama; veterans
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To: Churchillspirit
I would love to go and ask him to show me his COLB.

On camera, LIVE.

However, you'd be the subject of a huge smear campaign ala Joe the Plumber.

101 posted on 03/17/2009 12:04:40 PM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: sickoflibs
“You dont believe that. If it was so important GWB would have actually funded it with Iraq tax. It wasnt important enough to actually pay for with taxes or budget cuts(both unpopular) . Let someone else do that. Let them take the heat. Well Obama will not take the blame,. He will tack on all his wasteful spending and Blame republicans for it all and public is buying”

I was over there for 6 years doing “Things” in Kuwait !!I saw the real show and Saddam had to go Period. I guess one had to be aware that the Sanctions were being eroded daily,His funding of Terrorism, The Games with the inspectors,the dual use facilities that were going on line for his Terrorist Depot, The daily firing at our aircraft and the usual ramp up at the border with his Military.

102 posted on 03/17/2009 12:07:57 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: rabscuttle385
So you're saying that I should vote for a Republican simply because he or she is a Republican?

YES!!!! It is the only way to hold our ground and to have something left with which to build upon.

Fight it out in primaries but after that we do everything within our power to defeat RATS. Anyone can see the damage they are doing.

103 posted on 03/17/2009 12:09:04 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
YES!!!! It is the only way to hold our ground and to have something left with which to build upon.

So you would vote for a RINO like Snowe, Specter, Collins, McCain, or Graham over a non-Republican conservative?

104 posted on 03/17/2009 12:11:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: sickoflibs
So you give him special points for invading countries and leaving office with our troops still in action?? Well then if he invaded a few more like North Korea and Iran and left troops there too, and he put it all on the nation's credit card, he would look even better to you. Not me. The only way he can get credit for this is if the WOT was won and all our troops in the middle East could come home and miliary could be cut (like after Reagan.)

My gosh.....there is so much marlarkey here...it must be St. Patrick's Day!!

105 posted on 03/17/2009 12:12:11 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: utahson
RE “ Your BDS makes you no better than someone like Code Pink. You both are deranged with hatred and use very little logic. You are as cancerous as them with your hatred and shortsightedness.

I am done with GWB/BDS today. Ping me about him tomorrow.

But speaking of Code Pink. Have you noticed that we are in two wars and Obama is sending more troops to Afganistan yet Code Pink, Michael Moore, ANSWER, Sheenan est have given up their protests against military occupation???. I mean, Obama is taking his time with an orderly withdrawl, responsible HUH? But when Bush did the same thing he was criminal. Remember what they all said for 3 years?? They said “ They want us to leave. So lets just go! They have to learn to fight their own battles ” . See ? a change in party and a bad war becomse a good war.

106 posted on 03/17/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Keynesian Eco 101 : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL, and your kid's too!")
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Fight it out in primaries but after that we do everything within our power to defeat RATS. Anyone can see the damage they are doing.

Oh, it's painfully obvious to see that you are willing to turn a blind eye to all the damage that the contemptible RINOs are doing...and then, when the Republican Party is rotten and decayed from the inside, they will hand you over to the Democrats.

If you reward bad behavior, expect more bad behavior.

But hey, it seems you have no problem with bad behavior so long as it's a Republican at the helm.

107 posted on 03/17/2009 12:14:13 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

From the cheerleader that pushed the biggest RINO of all, Ron Paul. Ron Paul is no Republican, he is a Libertarian wearing a Republican title to win election. He is a Republican In Name Only. He is a coward that dares not run under what he really is because he would not get elected. Ron Paul is a bigger RINO than anyone in the Republican party and GW himself. What did you think about Ron Paul putting in more earmarks into the last bill THAN ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN? I noticed you hid from that thread Rabs. Your dear leader is a fraud. He is your Jim Jones and you are drinking his kool-aid. Ron Paul, king of earmarks. Are those constitutional? Where are they BTW in the constitution?


108 posted on 03/17/2009 12:14:27 PM PDT by utahson
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To: sickoflibs
I agree with your assessment about how the far left is treating Obama and the wars. It was a good point and should be highlighted more often.
109 posted on 03/17/2009 12:17:09 PM PDT by utahson
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To: Cheetahcat

I remember all that and it’s part of why Bush sold me too. But looking back and where we are now I would say Saddam in power is better than what we have here in USA now. GWB put all his chips on one political gamble, and he lost because Saddam was bluffing on weapons and threat, as GWB has admitted.

If we found weapons that were a near term threat to US, or we were attacked by saddam, Obama wouldnt be president now.


110 posted on 03/17/2009 12:18:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Keynesian Eco 101 : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL, and your kid's too!")
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To: sickoflibs

Sickoflibs—Again, you’re right on the money. Under Bush spending outstripped tax cuts. Bush was right in going to WOT, but botched it. Iraq and Afghanistan should have been over long ago. Bush never learned from Vietnam—when at war you cannot allow yur adversary safe havens. Moreover, he missed the biggest lesson from Vietnam—when a president commits American troops he/she must be willing to bring overwhelming force to bear. The minimalist war he and Rumsfeld tried to get away with failed. The biggest advantage it provided the Islamoterrorists was time. Time to hide, time to recruit, time to rearm, time to reorganize. This has led directly to unnecessary American casualties and war costs.


111 posted on 03/17/2009 12:19:00 PM PDT by dools007
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To: rabscuttle385
Yes. There is a very good reason for it. First, I assume you're saying that there is a chance of a Democrat being more conservative than any of these pitiful RINOS. That isn't going to happen and even if it does, these "conservative" Democrats are hypocrites and end up voting for people like Nancy Pelosi for Speaker and Harry Reid for Majority Leader.

Please trust me on this. I know first hand how the system works. I was in the midst for many, many years. It's a numbers game.

I've worked with so-called "conservative" Democrats but over the years I've lost all respect for them. They know full well they grant power to the liberal Democrats. Listen to what I'm going to say now: The ONLY time a "conservative Democrat has ANY value is when they are in the minority. Then they might be able to give a vote that would be valuable to our cause but as long as they're in the majority, they're useless to our cause as they only increase the Democrat majority and when Democrats are in the majority, they control the whole agenda.

They elect the leaders, they elect committee chairs which control all legislation.

While RINOS are a pain in the neck, they still count toward a Republican majority and at this point, we don't have the luxury of being able to throw them overboard.

We need every one of them. I would fight like heck to have them defeated in a primary, however.

112 posted on 03/17/2009 12:19:36 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: utahson
What did you think about Ron Paul putting in more earmarks into the last bill THAN ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN?

It is regrettable to learn that Ron Paul is just less of a politician than the rest, but nonetheless, still a politician.

113 posted on 03/17/2009 12:19:57 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
While RINOS are a pain in the neck, they still count toward a Republican majority and at this point, we don't have the luxury of being able to throw them overboard.

Yes...they count towards the numbers that were needed to stop Porkulus, and yet, they caved.

Sorry, I don't buy your arguments.

114 posted on 03/17/2009 12:20:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
Ron Paul is not just less of a politician, he is king of the earmarks. No way to spin it. He is a phony, just like calling himself a Republican. He is the biggest RINO of all. Libertarian wearing the clothes of a Republican to stay in office. And you defend him, while harping about GW being a RINO. Pretty hypocritical.
115 posted on 03/17/2009 12:32:19 PM PDT by utahson
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To: utahson

For Governor Palin.


116 posted on 03/17/2009 12:38:24 PM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: dools007

Thanks. It’s called overextension. He tried the Iraq Democracy Autonomy thing in 2004 (while still at War) which didnt go well, but got him re-elected before it was obvious to voters things in Iraq were a mess.

Too much on his plate. Remember Johnson? Vietnam, Space Program, Great Society all at the same time without raising taxes? And we got 1970s decade of stagflation and destruction of military. Oh-No!


117 posted on 03/17/2009 12:42:44 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Keynesian Eco 101 : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL, and your kid's too!")
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To: rabscuttle385

What I told you were facts. It is not an opinion, it is a fact that this is the way the process works. Now, if you don’t care if Republicans ever get into the majority, you have every right to believe that way but if we’re ever going to get in the majority, we need every number we can get. We may have to use some RINOs to get there.


118 posted on 03/17/2009 12:46:02 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; bamahead; djsherin; sickoflibs
Now, if you don’t care if Republicans ever get into the majority, you have every right to believe that way but if we’re ever going to get in the majority, we need every number we can get.

So basically, what you are working towards is simply giving the Republicans a majority...but to what end? It's a very important question that all Freepers should stop trying to dodge or evade. To what ends do we commit ourselves? Is it just power or is it conservatism?

The Republican Party held a majority for nearly six years. The Party effectively controlled all three branches of the Federal government and...how exactly did its actions further the cause of limited, Constitutional government? [The answer is that its actions didn't.] There was little to no actual reform of the tax code, public education still sucks, the U.S. is bogged down in multiple wars, debt is skyrocketing, Government at all levels consistently violates the Constitution...and hell, the Republican Party even created a new Federal agency and bloated the size and cost of Government! And, to top it all off, despite holding a majority, the Republicans negligently failed to rein in the Democrats, and it turns out that all that wonderful economic growth was all just pie in the sky.

You should take note that I am not a Republican. I used to be one until I discovered that the Party, on the whole, only cared to honor me and to adhere to conservative principles when it needed my money and my vote. As a result, I don't care whether the Republican Party lives or dies, so long as it gets the hell out of my way. I do, however, care about folks who are sincere and genuine about promoting limited, Constitutional government, regardless of their political affiliations.

119 posted on 03/17/2009 1:59:49 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: sickoflibs
“If we found weapons that were a near term threat to US, or we were attacked by saddam, Obama wouldnt be president now.”

What PART of supporting Terrorism do you NOT understand???

120 posted on 03/17/2009 2:00:22 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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