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Foaming controversy as socialized suds hit NB Liquor shelves (New Brunswick Gov't Made Beer!)
CBC ^ | March 12, 2009

Posted on 03/13/2009 5:32:18 AM PDT by Loyalist

New Brunswick is rolling out its government-brand suds across the province on Thursday in a strategy to keep people from heading across the border in pursuit of discount beer.

The new brand is designed to staunch the bleeding of beer sales in border communities, but it is infuriating local brewers and at least one Quebec business owner.

The beers, Selection Lager and Light, are being brewed exclusively for the New Brunswick Liquor Corp., a Crown corporation, by Saint John-based Moosehead Breweries.

Dana Clendenning, the liquor corporation's president and chief executive officer, told a legislative committee in January that NB Liquor was losing about $12 million in sales annually, primarily to Quebec. Now he is boasting about the beer's New Brunswick roots as the first cases are being stacked on NB Liquor shelves across the province.

"We are proud to launch these premium-quality, low-cost brands, which are brewed for New Brunswickers by New Brunswickers," Clendenning said in a press release on Thursday.

He described the beers as "using quality ingredients … slightly drier than the typical lager and light beers, with a crisp, dry taste. They are light-to medium-bodied in colour, with a clean, fresh finish."

Clendenning defended the enterprise on Thursday as the first cases were put on sale.

"As far as I'm concerned, nothing ventured nothing gained. We haven't invested in a plant or equipment, we don't have a sales team out there," he said.

"It's a minimal investment to launch these two brands."

New Brunswick's policy of socially responsible pricing means that the lowest allowable price for 12 cans is $18.67. That policy is designed to set a floor price for beer in the belief that any lower prices would lead people to buy too much and develop drinking problems.

But in Quebec, the lowest allowable price is much lower. Beer drinkers across the border can get 24 cans of beer for as little as $25.

The new Selection brands will be sold throughout the year for $18.67 for 12 cans. Other beer companies have to apply to sell at the minimum price for a limited time and can only do that a certain number of times each year.

While the beer may be cheap, Craig Pinhey, a New Brunswick wine and beer expert, said the product may be worth the price for some people.

"If you like mass-produced Canadian lager, this tastes just as good as the other ones. So why would you not save money?" he said.

The new beer wasn't winning immediate converts among some Saint John beer drinkers despite the lower cost.

"Well as far as I'm concered, Alpine was the provincial beer anyway," said Harold Defazio, a customer.

"I'll try it, but I can't see me switching my beer."

One obvious city that NB Liquor will be selecting to target with the Selection brand will be Campbellton, which rests on the province's north shore.

After a quick drive over the J.C. Van Horne Bridge, residents are in Pointe-a-la-Croix, Que. Within a few seconds they can be at the Restigouche Drive-Thru, a convenience store on the Listuguj First Nation.

At times 80 per cent of the cars in the parking lot have New Brunswick plates.

Frederic Daigle, the store's manager, is already giving NB Liquor some advice it probably doesn't want to hear.

"The only thing that could really help the province of New Brunswick, if they're really serious about [saving sales to Quebec], is to open up the sale of beer into mom and pop convenience stores," Daigle said.

"Cigarettes aren't selling like they used to, and so the only thing left, really is the beer. If they could get that back into their stores, the spinoff provincewide would be unbelievable."

Business advice aside, there is also concern that NB Liquor's new beer is brewing a nasty neighbourly divide.

Alison Mettalic, the owner of the Restigouche Driv-Thru and the chief of the Listuguj First Nation, said people on both sides of the border are neighbours and not competitors.

"We do our schooling on the other side. We do our shopping on the other side. We buy our cars, buy our groceries, hospitalization. We're like a big family and I don't see what the big deal is, because we're really helping each other, you know if you take a look at it," Mettalic said

Adding to the frustration felt by Mettalic is the idea that a large Crown corporation is taking aim at small convenience stories.

"This giant monopoly is trying to fight the little guys, and we're having a hard time to survive around here, and we're all chipping in and helping each other," Mettalic said.

"They may be losing millions, I mean a few million, but that doesn't compare for the annual income that the NB Liquor commission takes in, in the run of a year."

NB Liquor had almost $380 million in sales during the last fiscal year.

While the Crown corporation enjoys hundreds of millions in annual sales, a New Brunswick microbrewery is worried about its future.

Shaun Fraser, the president of Moncton's Pumphouse Brewery, has been outspoken in his opposition to the government's plan to tap into his sales.

"For the government to put one of their Crown corporations in direct competition or in business with their own citizens and their own entrepreneurs, you know, I mean whose money are they playing with when they do this?" he said.

"Come on down and pay my bills and you can play with my brewery all you want.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Government
KEYWORDS: beer; economy; holdmuhbeer; nbliquor; newbrunswick; socialism
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From government cheese to government beer.

And the sad part is that they'll still be driving to Quebec to get 12 beer for $12.99.

Leave it to government to come up with the most unworkable and counterproductive solution possible.

1 posted on 03/13/2009 5:32:18 AM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Loyalist

Somehow I am reminded of the descriptions of the foul government produced “Victory” gin in Orwell’s 1984.


2 posted on 03/13/2009 5:36:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Loyalist

Make beer. Sell beer. Arrest you for drinking beer.


3 posted on 03/13/2009 5:40:49 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Loyalist

“If you like mass-produced Canadian lager”

No, I don’t.


4 posted on 03/13/2009 5:41:45 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: Loyalist

At least it is brewed in a real brewery- Moosehead- not in some newly built government facility. Real government beer would be created by committee and undoubtedly taste like it.


5 posted on 03/13/2009 5:42:57 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Loyalist

6 posted on 03/13/2009 5:44:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: Loyalist

I was born & raised in a Maine/NB border town...most of my dad’s family is from there. Back in the high school days, Moosehead was the prized stuff...a whole lot more potent than any of that cheap, watered-down, American beer. A couple of Moosehead, and you were good to go for the night!!!! As teens, we’d chum up to our Canadian counterparts, and do a little horse-trading, bartering, smuggling etc. to get our hands on the stuff....ahhhh, yes! The good old days...long gone now.


7 posted on 03/13/2009 6:04:02 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Loyalist

What next, Obama nationalizing Natty Light?


8 posted on 03/13/2009 6:06:25 AM PDT by neb52
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To: Loyalist
Liquid bread, historians think it's what the Egyptians used to keep the slaves happy and working.

Nothing like a half drunk dependent little socialist looking forward to a cheap brew after work to keep them in line...

9 posted on 03/13/2009 6:13:19 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Wow, so they have a government run monopoly Liquor store chain in New Brunswick, and laws that specify a minimum price floor. The stated purpose of the law is to reduce demand (and reduce sales).

And they are losing business to private enterprises that are just a few miles away, across a bridge, that don't have the artificial price floor.

And their solution is a private label beer that will always be available at the minimum (sale/promotional) price, which is still well above the price across the bridge.

Amazing.

10 posted on 03/13/2009 6:25:04 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: fanfan

Canada PING?


11 posted on 03/13/2009 6:32:20 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: cc2k

Ohio has a screwed up system too. State Stores. The choices are limited by the state. Used to be you couldn’t find Mount Gay Rum anywhere. Now you can usually find only one of the rums they make. I’d vacation in Florida, and take a bunch of extra cash to stock up. In Holmes Beach, the little package store had over 80 kinds of rum! I was in Rummy Heaven!


12 posted on 03/13/2009 6:37:59 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Loyalist; knews_hound

Simple solution - brew your own!


13 posted on 03/13/2009 6:42:21 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Loyalist

"Eh, hosers, Elsinore Beer rules, eh. Take off!"

14 posted on 03/13/2009 6:50:03 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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To: Abathar

The Marine Corps started in Tun’s Tavern.
The Revolution in Sam Adam’s tavern where the ‘Sons of Liberty’ met.
Our fist revolt after the Revolution was The Whiskey Revolt.

I associate the South, and especially the moonshining South, with being anti-large government.


15 posted on 03/13/2009 6:56:11 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler

My grandfather made a fortune smuggling whiskey across the Detroit river during prohibition. I bought 100 acres of land off of what he left to me from it.

I sleep well at night too.


16 posted on 03/13/2009 6:59:25 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I’m good at sleeping. Wish there was some money in it.


17 posted on 03/13/2009 7:17:33 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: MplsSteve; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...
Thanks for the ping, MplsSteve. This is series!


18 posted on 03/13/2009 7:40:43 AM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: lgjhn23
Back in the high school days, Moosehead was the prized stuff.

Are you kidding? I grew up in Woodstock, and the beer of choice was either Schooner or Keith's. Moosehead was a choice below even Alpine.

Because of the cost, we used to go to Houlton and get Bud.

19 posted on 03/13/2009 1:27:45 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: fanfan
Best Canadian brews ever:


20 posted on 03/13/2009 1:33:32 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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