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Hundreds seek food handouts in Indiana city (18.3% unemployment)
The International Herald Tribune / The Associated Press ^ | March 11, 2009

Posted on 03/11/2009 1:42:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

ELKHART, Ind.: Hundreds of cars lined up in economically distressed Elkhart on Tuesday to receive food and other items from 13 semitrailers sent by a charity.

The trucks carried more than $2.1 million worth of food, enough to help sustain about 5,200 families for a week. Elkhart, with an unemployment rate of 18.3 percent, was recently visited by President Barack Obama trying to muster public support for economic stimulus legislation.

The line wrapped around a shopping mall parking lot and onto surrounding roads. Layoffs in the recreational vehicle industry have driven much of the job loss in northern Indiana. The city was the second of several cities on Feed the Children's "Americans Feeding Americans Emergency Caravan."

"It's been a struggle," said Patricia Smith, of Elkhart, who waited more than an hour to get her supplies, which came in a box containing macaroni and cheese, canned goods, toilet paper and other items. "We're surviving and we're going to make it through this."

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: automakers; bhoeconomy; charity; economy; elkhart; feedthechildren; layoffs; manufacturing; obama; porkulus; recession; rv; stimulus; unemployment
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Wonder if they'll be living in Obamavilles, like the Hoovervilles after the 1929 crash?
1 posted on 03/11/2009 1:42:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$2.1 million of food can sustain 5,200 families for one week?

That’s $400 per week per family.

Big families in Indiana, I guess?


2 posted on 03/11/2009 1:49:48 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Saw what may be termed an “Obamaville” in Sacramento on the news... more are sure to show up as this travesty unfolds!


3 posted on 03/11/2009 1:50:07 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tent citys springing up all over the place, picture spread on MSNBC a couple days ago of one in Sacramento.
I prefer to call them “Barryslums”


4 posted on 03/11/2009 1:50:28 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m of the opinion that much unemployment (or “underemployment”) results from a lack of vocational education, and I think we have too little vocational education in this country because almost our entire education system, from pre-school to the university level, is dominated by the government.


5 posted on 03/11/2009 1:51:33 AM PDT by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RV market got a double whammy: $4 a gallon gas, and then the credit crunch/equity crash.


6 posted on 03/11/2009 1:57:46 AM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any time you give anything away, people will line up for blocks. If some car dealer gives away hot dogs, he’ll get hundreds of these moochers. When a bank gives away coffee and cookies at Christmas, they’ll be packed.


7 posted on 03/11/2009 2:00:03 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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HundredsThousands seek food handouts in Indiana city.

And to think, this is just the tip of the iceberg.


8 posted on 03/11/2009 2:01:55 AM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: jsh3180
From the article: Layoffs in the recreational vehicle industry have driven much of the job loss in northern Indiana.

Your comment: Tent citys springing up all over the place, picture spread on MSNBC a couple days ago of one ...

Here's clear evidence that the idiots are in charge of everything, everywhere. It's not mismanagement -- it's absolute non-management.

Here's a town with an industry that manfactures 800-foot travel trailers to sell for a gazillion bucks each, complete with swimming pools and basketball courts. Each of them requires a semi-tractor to haul. There are millions sitting in dealer lots across the country, unsold. That's all they make. That's all they can make. There's no more market for them, but that's what they make. Can't make one any smaller; can't make one without the swimming pool. Can't do any market research to find out what kind might sell. Can't stretch their brains a little to think what else they could also make with their sheet aluminum, steel, plastic, piping, framing, insulation, and electrical wiring, and all the tools they have sitting idle, and all the people in the town sitting on their skills.

Instead, let's monkey with the money supply and markets until people can again have the cash and credit to buy something they can only use one week per year, to move from a dealer's lot to an RV storage lot.

Meanwhile, what's up with that tent city fiasco?

9 posted on 03/11/2009 2:27:15 AM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: LifeComesFirst
I’m of the opinion that much unemployment (or “underemployment”) results from a lack of vocational education

Yep, and why not MOVE to a job, I just did. I heard an advertisement on the radio by a Jackson Ms plumbing company saying "hiring qualified plumbers".

The government schools teach that you can't be a success w/o college. W/O college, your a failure. (how else are they going to perpetuate academia?)

Oh, I'm a HVAC Tech/electrician, (voc school grad x2) plenty of work.

10 posted on 03/11/2009 2:29:21 AM PDT by MrPiper
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I wasn’t getting on your case, man. In fact, I learned my lesson the hard way. Dropped out of college and never got my computer science degree. Went back a few years later to study electrical engineering and a paperwork snafu forced me to stop taking classes after one quarter. Soured me off higher education for about six straight years. Now I’m heading back to engineering college. I just hope the government-created financial crisis won’t affect my ability to get student loans.


11 posted on 03/11/2009 3:02:29 AM PDT by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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So who bought those expensive motor homes?

The RICH! That's who.

And I bet those fools in Elkhart believe that Obama's going to save their jobs ...
12 posted on 03/11/2009 3:09:41 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: meadsjn
Many sell the house and live in these “homes”. It reduces home expenses and they get to travel. If a person chooses to use their retirement money this way...I figure that is their business. I laugh when I see the “spending our kids inheritance” bumper stickers.
13 posted on 03/11/2009 3:13:29 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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14 posted on 03/11/2009 3:37:51 AM PDT by Cindy
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You missed my point. You are correct that what people buy is their business. When people stop buying something, whoever makes that thing needs to make something different that will sell, or they are out of business.

The problem in Elkhart with the RV business is what the article is about. Dealer lots across the country are full of the million dollar models. Millionaires can only buy so many of those. They could downscale and make smaller models. They could make many other non-RV products with the same tools and materials. Instead the whole town is standing in line at the food bank, and the company is sitting idle.

This economic downturn is no surprize to any competent manager. Such a person would have, several years ago, directed a significant portion of their marketing budget to determine what they might make and sell when the super-luxury items don't sell.

15 posted on 03/11/2009 3:38:47 AM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is going to happen when the government can’t fund food stamps and there aren’t as many farms that need “hands” as there was in the 30’s? Now we have machines that can do what most hands could do before.


16 posted on 03/11/2009 3:53:15 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These fools in Indiana voted for Obama. The first time Indiana went other than Republican in many years. I wonder if they like being out of a job?


17 posted on 03/11/2009 4:09:35 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: zeestephen

You need to subtract out the bureaucratic overhead.


18 posted on 03/11/2009 4:10:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: ozzymandus
Any time you give anything away, people will line up for blocks.

At Denny's recent give away of the grand slam breakfast (2 eggs, 2 pieces of bacon and 2 pancakes) people were lined up for hours in near zero tempertures.

I would not have stood in that line in that weather had they been handing out one hundred dollar bills.

19 posted on 03/11/2009 4:13:49 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
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To: meadsjn

“They could downscale and make smaller models. They could make many other non-RV products”

They make very few “million dollar motorhomes” in Elkhart. The majority of the motorhomes made there are class c and retail for between 60,000 and 80,000 dollars which would still put it out of my league.

They also manufacture all the Fed-Ex and UPS trucks that you see all over the country as well as small box delivery vehicles.

They’re having a tough time right now but Elkhart is filled with fine hard working people and I know they will work their way out of this mess somehow.


20 posted on 03/11/2009 4:20:01 AM PDT by Quigley
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