Right Wingnut Incitements to Violence Are Being Acted Upon THE FBI AND SECRET SERVICE NEED OUR HELP

A libtard blog ^ | March 9, 2009 | catherinemacivor.com

[Jim Robinson]

Excerpts:

As you all know, Skyewriter recently wrote about the dangerous incitement to violence and direct threats at Free Republic. I also posted and directed you to Skywriter’s blog. Skyewriter and I were deluged with gun bloggers and other right wingnuts (and just nuts) who denied that this was a direct threat.

~~snip~~

One week after Skywriter posted and I directed those on my blog to the post, the Daily Kos posted on the same topic. They detailed a thread in which the wingnuts were ranting, no doubt with white froth at the mouth, about our duly elected President who enjoys exceptionally high approval ratings in this country and who most of America thinks is doing a great job. You can see the post here.

Daily Kos Noted that while wingnut talk like this is nothing terribly new, it is more of the same started by Sarah Palin at her divisive qand hateful rallies and similar to Alan Keyes call for action to “stop” President Obama.

~~snip~~

But it is not just a question of a Republican leadership and moral vacuum. Where is the media? CNN is more interested in showing homes paid for by the USPS than exposing this clear and growing danger to a man who was elected by a clear majority of this country and who the majority approves of to this day. The rest of the media is equally irresponsible in failing to cover this story and Fox is the grandaddy of them all as they are constantly whipping up the angry white men out there with their no fact based news. The garbage that they spew is delusional. Talk about hijacking democracy!

Today the Daily KOS posted a follow up because like Skye and me, they reported that thread at the Free republic to the FBI. Contrary to all of the nastiness that Skye was subjected to that what she quoted on her blog was really nothing, the FBI and Secret service do think it is something indeed. You can see that post here. Here are some excerpts from the FBI about the wingnuts:

"The number of threats to Obama as an individual, not the office, since election day is unprecedented. The Secret Service typically handles this stuff exclusively, but has had to look elsewhere for help."

"The FBI monitors and investigates all the white supremacist groups and websites and the guy I know in NY told me that Obama’s election has turned into the best recruiting tool they have ever used. Membership is up for the first time in I don’t know how long, and new hate websites are emerging every week. Some of the websites actually call for Obama’s assassination in their title!"

"The only solace I can offer is that, typically, these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by, who have nothing better to do than complain, blame others for their shitty lives and spew their hatred and pitifully ignorant views online."

"This is not to say that Obama isn’t in constant peril…"

~~snip~~

I’m preaching and this has all been said before. I guess I’m just venting because the level of ignorance in this country actually still astounds me. We act horrified and shocked at the uneducated peasant masses blindly following crazy Muslim clerics when we have essentially the same thing going on here.

I could not agree more. It doesn’t matter whether the wingnuts are right wingnuts or left wingnuts. This is not acceptable and puts the people making the threats against President Obama in the same position as Osama bin laden - flat out murderers.

According to the post, the FBI (and I know the secret service as well) has requested our help in exposing the militia groups and the wingnuts threatening our democracy.

He also invites us to help “expose these morons whenever we can”. Distasteful as it is to have to venture into the belly of the beast, let’s keep an eye on the wingnuts and report any and every instance of hate speech, particularly threats of violence, whether against our President or anyone at all. The Secret Service and the FBI actually do investigate these people, as The Red Pen’s rec’d diary from yesterday attests. Reporting them works. So let’s keep the heat turned up. While we’ll probably never change their minds, we can at least stigmatize the hell out of them, make it less attractive to fence-sitters to be associated with them, and make their lives a little more miserable than they already so clearly are.

Here is the contact page for the US Secret Service.

Here is the contact page for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

~~snip~~

These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other “Republicans” who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior, should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who don’t read and apparently can’t think too clearly either.

[Darren McCarty]

I really like Teddy Roosevelt's old saying. Speak softly, and carry a big stick.

Right now, we still have the ballot box, the courtrooms, and our 1st, 2nd, and 4th (somewhat) Amendment rights. As long as that avenue is available, things are alright. If that's taken away, then I'll do what I have to do.

If they don't cross the line I won't.

[avacado]

Did those moonbats get upset over the 2006 movie “Death of a President” where Bush gets assassinated? I didn't think so!

[Dead Corpse]

We've been under attack by an out of control Federal Government for the better part of 20 years now (since the Ruby Ridge time frame). Some say almost 80 years (since the enactment of the NFA of '34 and the New Deal).

At what point does "it isn't time yet" kinda lose it's punch? Or is this one of those "fraction of a fraction of a fraction" type things where "getting closer" never actually gets there?

[darkangel82]

They’ve tried to infiltrate before but the result is always the same: Zot.

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[Candor7]

Well . more piffle from the left, who know that Obama is a disaster and can't face that fact. The stock market does NOT lie.

Wing Nuts?

I had listened to 8 years of left wingnut threats about President Bush and now they can't stand a little of their own medicine. Did we go running to the SS?

A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.And the problem is that it doesn't taste like kool aid.

We have had lefty sleeper trolls on FR for weeks , who have tried to supervise our postings about Obama. We have turfed most of them, and worn them out.

Who wants to be next? The SS? "Ram Manual?"

The 1st amendment is a problem for the left,is it not?

Buahahahahahaha!

They hate the numbers 1 and 2.

[Candor7]

Time to celebrate. We finally PWND Daily KOS.

[Jim Robinson]

Where’s the beef?

[Thunder90]

Not much was said or done when the DUers posted stuff on their forum gloating about the death of President George W. Bush by violent means.

This is a link to an example of this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2370521

[MrB]

Yeah, but “that’s different” - he’s a Republican.

Notice how we’re “haters” when we don’t fall in line and lick 0bama’s boots with the leftists?

[melancholy]

Where’s the beef?

The links show how beefy she is.

[MeekOneGOP]

Ping! Ping! Ping!

[ravingnutter]

Oh good grief...cut the drama, things are not that bad. To propose that snipers on rooftops is the answer to our current situation is just insane.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thank you! :)

[Dead Corpse]

Not that bad? Have you seen the Dow lately? We're down over 50% and headed lower. We pass 83% drop and we're in Depression territory.

Unemployment is skyrocketing. Government debt is far exceeding anything history has EVER seen. FDIC is out of money for covering defaulting banks. Government assaults on individuals and individual liberty are compounding DAILY.

The Founders must have been "raving nutters" in comparison to us then as they rebelled, VIOLENTLY, agaisnt King George for only a fraction of what we are still trying to mollify ourselves over as being "not that bad yet".

Is the idea really that insane? Or is the true insanity that we've been so beaten down that we are completely incapable of doing anything at all about it? That the only real recourse we have left is to wait our turn to be loaded on to the boxcars?

What's "bad enough" for you?

[Candor7]

There is nothing illegal about either if these posts, 41 or 75 on the Keyes thread. They do not constitute a threat on the presidents life, nor do they incite to insurrection.

I mean its far less threatening than what the Son's of Liberty wrote in their pamphlets "hate speech."

Thomas Paine:

"However, it matters very little now, what the king of England either says or does; he hath wickedly broken through every moral and human obligation, trampled nature and conscience beneath his feet; and by a steady and constitutional spirit of insolence and cruelty, procured for himself an universal hatred. It is now the interest of America to provide for herself."

AND THIS:

"Sir John Dalrymple, the putative father of a whining jesuitical piece, fallaciously called, The address of the people of ENGLAND to the inhabitants of America, hath, perhaps from a vain supposition, that the people here were to be frightened at the pomp and description of a king, given, (though very unwisely on his part) the real character of the present one: "But," says this writer, "if you are inclined to pay compliments to an administration, which we do not complain of," (meaning the Marquis of Rockingham's at the repeal of the Stamp Act) "it is very unfair in you to withhold them from that prince, by whose NOD ALONE they were permitted to do anything." This is toryism with a witness! Here is idolatry even without a mask: And he who can calmly hear, and digest such doctrine, hath forfeited his claim to rationality an apostate from the order of manhood; and ought to be considered- as one, who hath, not only given up the proper dignity of a man, but sunk himself beneath the rank of animals, and contemptibly crawl through the world like a worm."

I guess Thomas Paine was a wingnut to , according to the Daily KOS standard.

In that case, CALL ME WINGNUT!

[ApplegateRanch]

Whipping up a crown of wingnuts?

It is a thorny subject, meted out by the scourge of the Left. We must steel ourselves as they twist our threads, trying to wrench support against us from the moderates.

[cayuga]

And I have no problem with comprehension...

Here's the original post I was replying to:

We need to be perfectly clear that by “stopping” him we mean using political means to stop his political agenda.

All I was pointing out was that "political means" includes the cartridge box. That's a fact that may be new to many people. I fail to see how that incites violence. I guess you have to "read between the lines" and fill in the blanks.

And next you say:

But to take that frame of reference (combined with the implications of the sniper picture), apply to our current situation and suggest that should be the solution at this juncture is just wrong.

Sorry, but nowhere do I suggest that sniping is a solution at this juncture. Quit making stuff up.What part of "When all else fails..." don't you understand?

We are not there yet, and I agree with you that time is getting closer. When 0bama has his Internal Security Force in place he will have his Reichstag Fire event. It will then be too late to post sniper pictures. Or anything else.

[xJones]

Here's a reply to Skyewriter's little screed:

"BTW, I can tell you that when people like you call the secret service it is called a “Gladys” call meanng there is some busybody on the line and some low level employee needs to do their time taking the call.They call you “Gladys” after Gladys Cravitis the busybody on Bewitched. LOL."

The comments referenced were extremely stupid and no one here would believe the posters were serious. In fact, I'd take a bullet for Obama because any left/right wingnut that tried to harm him would unleash the greatest backlash you can imagine.

[Jim Robinson]

They taught me in elementary school (this was America in the fifties) that the Americans hid behind trees and mowed down the redcoats marching toward them in orderly ranks. That the word of the day was, “Don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes!”

And this was in a public school. Doubt they teach it today.