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1 posted on 03/04/2009 11:16:16 AM PST by RobinMasters
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Obama seems to be fast-tracking it for this year...


2 posted on 03/04/2009 11:19:34 AM PST by proudpapa (Obama - The Worst One Ever!)
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'Rump-states'

Parump???? LOL!

3 posted on 03/04/2009 11:21:04 AM PST by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: RobinMasters

This coming from a country that has never gotten out of a collapse.


5 posted on 03/04/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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“Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry’s school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia’s state-guided TV channels”

Puts his credibility right up there with the likes of Katie Couric and Keith Olberman...


6 posted on 03/04/2009 11:23:51 AM PST by Finop (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.)
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Russia has economists?


7 posted on 03/04/2009 11:24:03 AM PST by microgood
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And then...? I mean, would this then result in the US finally being run by capitalists?


8 posted on 03/04/2009 11:24:07 AM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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"and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order."

I've been posting the following for close to a year without a SINGLE response... (seriously, not a one)

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
Reuters: Aug 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html

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11 posted on 03/04/2009 11:25:45 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

12 posted on 03/04/2009 11:29:04 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Ah yes, we've heard this before:


13 posted on 03/04/2009 11:29:04 AM PST by AreaMan
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the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011

Someone tell me why this is a bad thing?

14 posted on 03/04/2009 11:30:18 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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6 Americas? I thought there were 2 Americas. Confused!


15 posted on 03/04/2009 11:31:22 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Venezuela Set to Develop Nuclear Power With Russia
September 29, 2008
CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Russia will help Venezuela develop nuclear energy — a move likely to raise U.S. concerns over increasingly close cooperation between Caracas and Moscow.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429441,00.html
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Venezuela's Chavez welcomes Russian warships
Nov 25, 2008
LA GUAIRA, Venezuela – Russian warships arrived off Venezuela's coast Tuesday in a show of strength aimed at the United States as Moscow seeks to expand its influence in Latin America. The deployment is the first of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War and was timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Caracas — the first ever by a Russian president.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22Venezuela%27s+Chavez+welcomes+Russian+warships%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

More Yahoo search results for Russia and Venezuela connections:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu_X30pZJCJEAfCtXNyoA?p=Russia+Venezuela+bombers+tanks+arms&y=Search&fr=404_news
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17 posted on 03/04/2009 11:35:16 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Didn’t they say that last year?

And the year before?

And the.....


18 posted on 03/04/2009 11:37:18 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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Actually, Obama will destroy the Republic and David Petraeus will be first Emperor of America.


22 posted on 03/04/2009 11:47:43 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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This guy also thinks Alaska will be ceded back to Russia. Is he assuming WITHOUT a fight???


23 posted on 03/04/2009 11:50:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!!)
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Is this Russian economist gay? What is a “rump state?”


25 posted on 03/04/2009 11:54:27 AM PST by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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His scenario is plausible, except for the six. An unconstitutional putsch by Obama could split the country, but I suspect three pieces, which would quickly be reduced to two: Alaska; a rump Federal block loyal to Obama consisting of the Northeast (including Ohio), West Coast, Virginia, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota; and the rest of the lower 48.

I’m guessing Alaska would rejoin the New Union in the lower 48 fairly soon. Maybe Hawaii would go independent, maybe it would stay with Obama, and maybe some heavily Mexican border counties would try to join Mexico (though not if they knew what was good for them).

I’m guessing the inland rural parts of the West Coast states, and downstate Illinois and parts of Ohio and Virginia would secede from their states and join the New Union. The New Union would have all the farms, most of the military bases and most of the natural resources. Obama’s rump state would be left with most of the population, and no way to support them. There would be some nasty fighting in the pro-Obama cities of states in the New Union, and in areas where the rural population tries to secede from a pro-Obama state.


30 posted on 03/04/2009 12:11:42 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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I believe this guy to the extent that starting about summer of 2010 the first shots of the Social War will be fired.


32 posted on 03/04/2009 12:14:45 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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As we say here in the Confederacy: if at first you don’t secede, try, try again. After all, it was only 139 years ago, a mere eye-blink in historic terms.


33 posted on 03/04/2009 12:14:56 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (Tagline under official review.)
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What would “collapse of the United States” look like? I don’t understand. Will we all fall down? Will the states all become independent>? Not sure what those words mean


39 posted on 03/04/2009 12:29:51 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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