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Russian scholar says US will collapse next year
Breitbart ^ | March 4, 2009 | MIKE ECKEL

Posted on 03/04/2009 11:16:16 AM PST by RobinMasters

MOSCOW (AP) - If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.

"There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy—a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend.

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KEYWORDS: collapse; oldnews
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To: Frantzie

They aren’t laws. They’re resolutions and amount to nothing more than temper tantrums.

I wish they were laws.


21 posted on 03/04/2009 11:43:41 AM PST by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: RobinMasters

Actually, Obama will destroy the Republic and David Petraeus will be first Emperor of America.


22 posted on 03/04/2009 11:47:43 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: RobinMasters

This guy also thinks Alaska will be ceded back to Russia. Is he assuming WITHOUT a fight???


23 posted on 03/04/2009 11:50:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!!)
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To: In God I trust

Read and review (and yes, it even applies if you’re from Texas):

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all


24 posted on 03/04/2009 11:50:31 AM PST by durasell
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To: RobinMasters

Is this Russian economist gay? What is a “rump state?”


25 posted on 03/04/2009 11:54:27 AM PST by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: durasell
one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all

Just a casual, innocent question, but if the first, third, and fourth descriptors no longer apply, is the second still valid?

26 posted on 03/04/2009 11:57:14 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: puffer

The Russians should know better than anyone else. They’ve lived in a collapsed society all their lives!


27 posted on 03/04/2009 12:00:22 PM PST by Skenderbej
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Yes. It ALL still applies.

You may choose to sit out the Pledge at public events if you like, if your interpretation is different. You are also free to leave the country at any time and apply for citizenship elsewhere.

As for me, I was born an American and intend to stay an American.


28 posted on 03/04/2009 12:01:14 PM PST by durasell
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To: Skenderbej

The Russkies are just pissed off because they lost Ukraine, Gerogia and the rest of the satellite countries since the 80’s.

If they want to come here and take it from us, mayvbe they havent seen RED DAWN.


29 posted on 03/04/2009 12:08:37 PM PST by max americana
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To: RobinMasters

His scenario is plausible, except for the six. An unconstitutional putsch by Obama could split the country, but I suspect three pieces, which would quickly be reduced to two: Alaska; a rump Federal block loyal to Obama consisting of the Northeast (including Ohio), West Coast, Virginia, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota; and the rest of the lower 48.

I’m guessing Alaska would rejoin the New Union in the lower 48 fairly soon. Maybe Hawaii would go independent, maybe it would stay with Obama, and maybe some heavily Mexican border counties would try to join Mexico (though not if they knew what was good for them).

I’m guessing the inland rural parts of the West Coast states, and downstate Illinois and parts of Ohio and Virginia would secede from their states and join the New Union. The New Union would have all the farms, most of the military bases and most of the natural resources. Obama’s rump state would be left with most of the population, and no way to support them. There would be some nasty fighting in the pro-Obama cities of states in the New Union, and in areas where the rural population tries to secede from a pro-Obama state.


30 posted on 03/04/2009 12:11:42 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: In God I trust

Not quite, the Okies and us Kansans are still pumping and refining oil. Of course, we’d like to end up in the same successor state with you Texans (otherwise what would happen to Big 12 football?).


31 posted on 03/04/2009 12:13:58 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: RobinMasters

I believe this guy to the extent that starting about summer of 2010 the first shots of the Social War will be fired.


32 posted on 03/04/2009 12:14:45 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: RobinMasters

As we say here in the Confederacy: if at first you don’t secede, try, try again. After all, it was only 139 years ago, a mere eye-blink in historic terms.


33 posted on 03/04/2009 12:14:56 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (Tagline under official review.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Been watching Ghost in the Shell: SAC have we?

(There is something eerily prescient about the scene where folks from the CIA first turn up and are introduced as representing the American Empire.)

34 posted on 03/04/2009 12:16:11 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Frantzie

I believe a split like he’s talking about is the only hope we have for liberty.

The dems are acting fast to use the power of the fedgov to make sure that there is never another fair election, and that they will perpetually be in power.

Let them be in power, of about 20 liberal states that want to be socialist. The rest of us will live our lives in freedom and personal responsibility.


35 posted on 03/04/2009 12:17:08 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: In God I trust

So, are you ready for a rush of immigrants from the north of your border as well?


36 posted on 03/04/2009 12:18:20 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: jonrick46

‘Rump’ in politics means a small remnant. As in the “rump parliament” during the English Civil War.


37 posted on 03/04/2009 12:18:34 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Love your screen name!


38 posted on 03/04/2009 12:24:19 PM PST by Vor Lady (This tagline extinct due to gorebull warming.)
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To: RobinMasters

What would “collapse of the United States” look like? I don’t understand. Will we all fall down? Will the states all become independent>? Not sure what those words mean


39 posted on 03/04/2009 12:29:51 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: The_Reader_David

I pretty well agree with your take, especially regarding how rural areas of states like Illinois would break off to join the rest of flyover country. My own county in rural IL voted for Keyes over Obama in the 2004 Senate elections, for crying out loud. If there is a breakup Obama will get a bunch of cities full of angry stupid people, and very little else.


40 posted on 03/04/2009 12:35:12 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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