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Russian scholar says US will collapse next year (Martial Law, Six-Way Split, etc.)
The Rock Hill Herald / The Associated Press ^ | March 4, 2009 | Mike Eckel

Posted on 03/04/2009 1:04:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

MOSCOW -- If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.

"There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy - a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend.

The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the U.S. that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin.

Putin, the former president who is now prime minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany's Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crisis that has pounded the Russian economy.

Panarin didn't give many specifics on what underlies his analysis, mostly citing newspapers, magazines and other open sources.

He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now.

But he said the recent economic turmoil in the U.S. and other "social and cultural phenomena" led him to nail down a specific timeframe for "The End" - when the United States will break up into six autonomous regions and Alaska will revert to Russian control.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldonline.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: bailout; bho44; bhorussia; birthcertificate; certifigate; civilwar2; cw2; economy; financialcrisis; igorpanarin; obama; teaparty; wallstreet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; shibumi

Once *again* Maryland will be an “occupied” state.

Damn it all to hell and back.


21 posted on 03/04/2009 1:40:40 AM PST by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Panarin didn't give many specifics on what underlies his analysis, mostly citing newspapers, magazines and other open sources."

I see the problem - he has no facts with which to make these predictions.

22 posted on 03/04/2009 1:40:50 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Cindy

I’ve got a headline for you:

RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA SEEN IN DECLINE, PUTIN VOWS RETURN TO COLD WAR LEVELS AND QUALITY


23 posted on 03/04/2009 1:45:48 AM PST by durasell
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To: Cap74
I have faith in a massive revolt in the electorate taking place before a less peaceful revolt is necessary.

I'm not so sure I can wait for the electoral revolt.

24 posted on 03/04/2009 1:52:19 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Salamander

“Once again...” Maryland has never stopped being occupied.


25 posted on 03/04/2009 1:57:11 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Enterprise
San Francisco is a rump city.

Home of the Rump Rangers

Their motto:
One Rump. One Ranger.

26 posted on 03/04/2009 2:04:45 AM PST by uglybiker (AAAAAAH!!! I'm covered in BEES!)
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To: Enterprise

The San Fransissy Rump Ranger Militia?


27 posted on 03/04/2009 2:08:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and Alaska will revert to Russian control

Sarah Palin will not let that happen. She'd take them on herself, and she's got the weapons to do it.
28 posted on 03/04/2009 3:05:03 AM PST by indiana_gop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somene seeks to be bitter about That whole union collapse


29 posted on 03/04/2009 3:29:14 AM PST by Flavius
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To: A Navy Vet

“Time to move to Texas?”

Yes, I think so. First, we will need to clean out the trash in Austin.


30 posted on 03/04/2009 3:34:49 AM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans Unite!!!!! It's the Freedom, stupid. Palin/Jindal/DeMint/Pence 2012)
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To: irgbar-man

Bawney Fwank will be the ruler of the North East rump state.;^)


31 posted on 03/04/2009 3:35:55 AM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: MimirsWell
it is more likely that the US will get rid of Obama than break-up.

Unfortunately, there's no formal legal way for Americans to rid ourselves of an incompetent leader other than impeachment, which was intended as a remedy for illegal behavior and not incompetence.

32 posted on 03/04/2009 3:52:04 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: MimirsWell

“...but it is more likely that the US will get rid of Obama than break-up.”

Agreed.


33 posted on 03/04/2009 3:52:11 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Cap74

“I have faith in a massive revolt in the electorate taking place before a less peaceful revolt is necessary.”

I have no such faith, but I have HOPE that a massive revolt of the electorate will negate the need for a less peaceful revolt.


34 posted on 03/04/2009 3:55:12 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Rummyfan
"If we could get rid of California, New York, Massachusetts and a few other liberal hell-holes, it sounds good to me!"

Very true. If we could tell just a handful of big liberal states to piss off, or maybe only a few cities, our country would get along just fine going forward. We'll even let them keep their wannabe president.

35 posted on 03/04/2009 3:55:47 AM PST by KoRn
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To: uglybiker

I thought San Francisco’s slogan was:

One Rump, many Rangers.


36 posted on 03/04/2009 3:59:27 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: A Navy Vet

I think according to Igor, Texas reverts to Mexico...


37 posted on 03/04/2009 4:00:15 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: irgbar-man

Yes, Rump-states as in states remaining after a great one has fallen — just like after the Hittite Empire collapsed in 1200 BC, you had rump states like the Lydians etc. arising as post-Hittite kingdoms


38 posted on 03/04/2009 4:01:29 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: KoRn

Yeah great idea — cut loose of America’s economic engine, deep water ports, centers of hi-tech research, and premier universities.


39 posted on 03/04/2009 4:03:22 AM PST by durasell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; MimirsWell

you’re right — an alliance of democracies, with a preference for the Anglosphere would consist of the US, Canada (I know, I know), Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Israel, India, Japan, the Philippines, Poland, Italy, maybe Nigeria/South Africa/Tanzania and, of course, I forgot, Singapore HAS to be a part of this alliance


40 posted on 03/04/2009 4:05:26 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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