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Russian scholar says US will collapse next year (Martial Law, Six-Way Split, etc.)
The Rock Hill Herald / The Associated Press ^ | March 4, 2009 | Mike Eckel

Posted on 03/04/2009 1:04:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: durasell

—Yes, I imagine it’s a tough choice for a lot of science oriented students — Gee, do I go to MIT or University of Texas? Tough one.—

All that is different is the brand name. The end product is the same.


61 posted on 03/04/2009 6:10:07 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: durasell

—Actually no —it’s just home to relatively cheap American labor. The corporate headquarters are elsewhere.—

Ron Gettelfinger, is that you?!


62 posted on 03/04/2009 6:11:12 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

She can see the Russians coming from her front porch! </s>


63 posted on 03/04/2009 6:12:30 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: A Navy Vet; 2ndDivisionVet
Time to move to Texas?

Well, being that you two fellows are vets, we will let you across the Red River by special dispensation. However, we (Texans)will establish some very stringent criteria for other applicants. We already have way too many snow birds from the upper midwest and north east who are attempting to convert our fair state into an image from hence they came.

Actually, I think there has been a transition underway for about twenty years or so going on. I foresee one of the new ideological regions or states to be what's referred to as the Red L. There are of course pockets of liberalism within the L but I think we can “gently” couch these people to relocate to either the west or east coasts with their like minded brethren. Btw, the other major ideological region or state will be I think the states of the south and southeast. I don't see six regions. Six would not be able to achieve critical mass, economically, politically or militarily... Perhaps three at the most.

64 posted on 03/04/2009 6:14:09 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A year ago I would have said no way. But given the breakneck speed in which Bama the face of this deliberate downward spiral of the US economy I am not ruling out anything.

Bama and his host of advisers do have contingency plans and this nation is already divided into regions. And didn't the former Treasury Secretary threaten Congress with martial law if they did not pass the bank take over Act last fall. Remember when Bama, Inc., got lord McCain to suspend his political campaign?

65 posted on 03/04/2009 6:21:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Rummyfan

Wow, thank you for making this fellow American welcome. I live with my family in New York and my Late Father-who served proudly in the United States Army, is buried in Long Island. I do not think we can uproot now, due to economic considerations. Rummyfan-san, is it so idealic where you live? Why is it you and fellow Freepers think everyone who lives in the Northeast corridor of this country is a kool-aid drinking, lapdog? I am just as patriotic as any other Freeper on this forum and if I do move to your part of the country or the South, as I so often hear: THIS YANKEE COMES IN PEACE AND I AM NOT A LIBERAL, KOOL-AID-DRINKING-LAPDOG, YOU WILL OVERTURN YOUR WAY OF LIFE!!!!!! Granted, I do not come from a world of hunting and guns but I respect them both./Just Asking - seoul62.......


66 posted on 03/04/2009 6:24:27 AM PST by seoul62
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This ruskie dope says this every month.

67 posted on 03/04/2009 6:24:46 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51

Yes, I do recall a similar post not so long ago. I’m not sure this guy’s fellow political scientists in Russia take him seriously.


68 posted on 03/04/2009 6:27:30 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Cap74

There are states, AZ is the first I can think of, that have cited the declaration of martial law and suspension of the Constitution as automatic grounds for secession.”

Not to put you on the spot, but...is that in the AZ state code somewhere? Any chance you could provide a link?

I think a series of these should go through all state legislatures asap.


69 posted on 03/04/2009 6:42:24 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Alaska will revert to Russian control.”

Maybe they will accept California instead.


70 posted on 03/04/2009 6:47:28 AM PST by PeteCat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reading the article, his logic is typical Politburo propaganda (As if school massacres by terrorist, mafia control of business, human sex slave businesses, etc. do not demonstrate moral decay).

For the sake of discussion I’ll address how I believe something like this could happen.

While we are a Republic, we have become more akin to a Democracy via our tax code and entitlements.

Think of Rome’s history. They started as a Republic. Then through the citizens understanding that elections could bring them power, they became a Democracy. Then, when businesses failed due to no longer being able to afford the requirements placed upon them by the government, the people started taking action to provide for themselves. Anarchy followed. Once government stepped in to protect the citizens from each other, Rome became an Oligarchy.

The next step for us is for Anarchy to take place. For this to occur, our society must completely crumble under the weight of government requirements. This is what we are witnessing today.

It could occur like this:

1. Obama installs government control of the financial, health care and energy industries.
2. Wallstreet and main street shareholders are left out in the cold.
3. Takeover creates chaos.
4. Chaos creates revolt.
5. Revolt brings martial law.
6. Country is re-established into sections for better central control. (The “6 rump-states” have to do with the electoral map...Red-v-Blue.)
7. We then have the Obama (think Julius Caesar) installed as our leader for perpetuity.

So, while the guys reasoning for our collapse may be flawed, the steps are in place. In fact, they have been since the founding of our Nation. The difference is that Obama may be the first (or second…FDR) to actually be driving us there.

How do we fight this? Why not fight them where they live…the courts! Is the “stimulus” package constitutional? Can they mandate we give up our privacy through Electronic Health Records? Can they mandate that State legislatures can override the Governors when requesting portions of the package?

There must be a way.

Thoughts?


71 posted on 03/04/2009 6:54:30 AM PST by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

You make that list up yourself, or is it published somewhere?


72 posted on 03/04/2009 6:59:22 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

“MOSCOW — If you’re inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn’t mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.”

Cool.. I am sure Texico and Mexifornia will be their own states.


73 posted on 03/04/2009 7:03:05 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information and you control the people.)
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To: vg0va3

“5. Revolt brings martial law.”

Don’t know about that one. With 250 million privately owned weapons in this country, that would be a tough task.


74 posted on 03/04/2009 7:56:35 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This was predicted in a 1981 book, by Joel Garreau. The Nine Nations of North America Also a good economic description of The Southern Nation The South As It's Own Nation
75 posted on 03/04/2009 8:00:17 AM PST by topsail
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To: MimirsWell

If martial law is imposed on us, impeachment is in order.


76 posted on 03/04/2009 8:03:35 AM PST by RC2
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To: seatrout

The end product isn’t the same. Neither are the career paths and opportunities offered.


77 posted on 03/04/2009 8:14:49 AM PST by durasell
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Respectable schools no doubt, but not in the same league.


78 posted on 03/04/2009 8:15:50 AM PST by durasell
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To: Rummyfan

California and a good part of New York would be worth fighting for due to crop land. Just fence off the major cities and the rest of us will be fine.


79 posted on 03/04/2009 8:18:52 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The phrase “Alaska will revert to Russian control” is the Russian’s wet dream.

Given that China is a very present and serious threat to Russia’s vast eastern lands, that Russian “theoretician” needs a bit of a reality check.


80 posted on 03/04/2009 8:27:20 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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