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Rachel Maddow, reluctant sex symbol
Salon ^ | Tuesday, Feb. 24, 2009 | Judy Berman

Posted on 03/01/2009 3:46:20 PM PST by presidio9

Why do we -- men and women, gay and straight -- find Rachel Maddow sexy? Daphne Merkin's "Butch Fatale" about the newly minted MSNBC icon, hidden among the overpriced handbag porn and fluffy profiles of last weekend's New York Times T style magazine, is more complicated than it appears.

As Merkin writes, it isn't often that mainstream culture celebrates the attractiveness of butch lesbians. Sure, we admire femmes like Portia de Rossi and Lindsay Lohan. But for the most part, lesbians who wear suits, cut their hair short or otherwise don't conform to traditional standards of beauty -- the Ellen DeGenereses and Rosie O'Donnells of the world -- have to remain culturally neutered in order to participate in public life. Though we find classic representations of gay male beauty in the films of Luchino Visconti and the writings of Oscar Wilde and Thomas Mann, says Merkin, "It's much harder to envision a lesbian icon without coming up against Fran Lebowitz, looking surly and bored."

The problem with lesbian archetypes, according to Merkin, is that "both categories -- butch and femme -- borrow from gender-influenced dichotomies of beauty." And this is where Rachel Maddow, supposedly, is a revelation. "She may not be one of Hefner's Girls Next Door, exactly, but she is no bare-faced, unstylish dyke either, however she chooses to characterize herself," says Merkin, going on to coo over the way Maddow combines a light dusting of makeup with "Poindexter glasses, Jil Sander pantsuits and Converse sneakers" and concludes that "she's willing to prettify her image sufficiently to endear her to male viewers."

Here's where I disagree with Merkin: I don't think Maddow's TV appearance is particularly calculated to attract male viewers. The makeover doesn't seem like a ploy to sex up Maddow; rather, it's a concession to appearing on television, where everyone has to wear makeup and dress like a professional. According to a New York magazine profile, Maddow's partner, Susan Mikula, is responsible for her wearing makeup: "Without it, 'she looked like a dead person,'" Mikula said. And as for the designer suits, it's not as if MSNBC was going to let Maddow -- or Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews, for that matter -- go on the air in a ratty button-down and carpenter jeans. Meanwhile, Maddow makes no effort to hide her casual, butch off-screen appearance, either. In this pre-New Year's video, also for New York magazine, a bare-faced, hoodie-clad Maddow gives a lesson in mixology.

It's true that while the butch-femme dichotomy has already broken down among many younger lesbians -- I'm hard-pressed to categorize any of my mid-20s lesbian friends as either -- Maddow is still a butch in my book (and her own). And besides, I think Merkin misses something major about what makes Maddow sexy: the nerdiness! From the "Poindexter glasses" to the Oxford Ph.D. to her perfectly crafted sarcasm, Maddow is as geek-chic as she is lesbian-chic.

Unlike Merkin, I believe Maddow when she says "she has no interest in the issue of physical appearance -- her own or anyone else's." And as much as I would love her to herald a new age of lesbian beauty, it seems to me that viewers respond more to Maddow's non-physical qualities -- intelligence, charm and, above all, authenticity -- than to her looks. But I'm interested to hear Broadsheet readers' take, too. What do you think makes Rachel Maddow sexy?


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: androgeny; culturewar; downourthroats; homosexualagenda; inourfaces; itspat; liberalnonsense; liberalturnons; megabarfalert; merkin; msnbc; pravdamedia; rachelmaddow; thatsamanbaby
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To: libh8er

Look like two loggers headed out for a beer.


141 posted on 03/01/2009 6:01:20 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: SIDENET; All
Why do we — men and women, gay and straight — find Rachel Maddow sex?

Too many of these! Way too many!


142 posted on 03/01/2009 6:03:12 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: presidio9

143 posted on 03/01/2009 6:08:21 PM PST by Rastus
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To: presidio9

Mad cow?? A sex symbol?? My lord, what is this country coming to. In New York, she’s a “6”. In Texas, that would be a “4”.


144 posted on 03/01/2009 6:20:36 PM PST by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: presidio9

I think we need to find a picture of the author - Judy Berman. I need to see what someone looks like that fines Maddow “sexy”.


145 posted on 03/01/2009 6:35:57 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Yes, Gorbachev is better than Obama. At least Gorbachev admitted he was a Communist)
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To: presidio9

Looks like one of the Backstreet Boys... other than what I think might be lipstick, most women would consider her a nice looking teenage boy.

The world is going to heck in a handbasket.


146 posted on 03/01/2009 6:55:29 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Welcome to the brave new world...)
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To: presidio9; All
I couldn't believe the first sentence in this author's post. Who is she kidding? This Judy Berman is insane. Maddow is one of the most repulsive people on TV. Just looking at her can make me sick. She/he is also dumb as a box of rocks.

I did a bio on her and now I know why so many of the guys I know who went to Stanford are gay. With women(?) like Maddow around, I might go gay as well.
147 posted on 03/01/2009 6:56:47 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Yaelle

“I do not think she can help her looks or her orientation.”

You can cook up a hot dog any way you want, but you still have the choice of what kind of bread to stick it between.

That line of thinking is bull... sorry.

Other than that, I’m right with you.


148 posted on 03/01/2009 6:59:01 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Welcome to the brave new world...)
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To: presidio9
Tony Curtis (Bernie Schwartz) was once asked what it was like kissing Marilyn Monroe (on the set of Some Like it Hot)
He answered: "It was like kissing Frankenstein!"


149 posted on 03/01/2009 7:01:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: presidio9
GAG!
150 posted on 03/01/2009 7:01:58 PM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: mewzilla; All
Fox News has Megyn Kelly. MSNBC has Rachel Maddow. Someone please interpret this.
151 posted on 03/01/2009 7:05:06 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: presidio9
Lipstick on a pig head shot.


152 posted on 03/01/2009 7:07:52 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: presidio9
This is very accurate.

I believe we can all agree she's a symbol of something we'd be VERY reluctant to have sex with.

Cheers!

153 posted on 03/01/2009 7:13:43 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: presidio9
This thread is an anesthetic disaster, which I seek to rectify with a photo of Tori Praver.


154 posted on 03/01/2009 7:15:28 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: dfwgator

Rotflmao!


155 posted on 03/01/2009 7:22:43 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Plutarch

Thank you.


156 posted on 03/01/2009 7:23:30 PM PST by oldvike
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To: livius

I’d never heard of her before MSNBC hired her.


157 posted on 03/01/2009 7:25:32 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: presidio9

She actually has potential. She apparently doesn't feel comfortable looking too girly.

158 posted on 03/01/2009 7:26:04 PM PST by Land of the Freep
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To: rdl6989
Uh, that is aesthetic disaster. Anesthetic is what we need if we see anymore lipstick lesbian photos.
159 posted on 03/01/2009 7:26:08 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: presidio9; SortaBichy
Why do we -- men and women, gay and straight -- find Rachel Maddow sexy?

I'm going to do something I try usually NOT to do....post directly to this thread without any further scrolling beyond numbah one:


160 posted on 03/01/2009 7:26:36 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Here's hoping the Kennedy family trust is in deep....with Madoff)
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