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In order to possess long-term dictatorial powers, Obama must recreate America as a Marxist culture and economy protected by both a limitless intelligence agency and a paramilitary police force. Once these goals are achieved, the traditional military will be preserved to support similar revolutions overseas, and to defend against foreign threats. (Subduing you is his first goal, but not his ultimate one. His brain his already 150 chess moves past the end of the upcoming American civil war. You are but stepping stones. In his mind, he’s already buried you.) Audacious? Yes. The epitome of change? Yes.
1 posted on 02/20/2009 8:49:17 AM PST by Islander7
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Full title would not fit.

The Winds Of Civil War: Illinois-Driven Marxist Attempt To Conquer Union Threatened With Military Challenges

2 posted on 02/20/2009 8:50:14 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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I’ve always said that if the South does it again, the Mountain West and the lower Midwest would go with them.

New Hampshire was kind of a surprise, though.


3 posted on 02/20/2009 8:51:01 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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Ping


4 posted on 02/20/2009 8:53:34 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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If it comes to civil war, so be it!.....I will never live in a socialist America!....NEVER!!!


5 posted on 02/20/2009 8:54:21 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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zero is no Lincoln. The liberal states (the true red states) are not the industrialized north and the conservative states are not the south lacking in resources, population and industry.

I say let's get it on - sooner rather than later. Let's see the big, bad, scary gay, liberal, afraid of taking a single casualty, lacking discipline, pot smoking army come to Texas and suppress us. And in this civil war, the conservatives will be on the side of Liberty, the liberals on the side Karl Marx.

14 posted on 02/20/2009 8:59:29 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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one problem with an otherwise solid theory;

The Proud and Extremely Ethical United States Military WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN,Why, you ask, because no officer is duty bound to follow an illegal or immoral order. If Obieonesocialist tries that he will be clapped in irons so fast his SocCommie head will spin.

My observation is based on serving in the U.S. military and long association with many, many officers.

16 posted on 02/20/2009 9:00:53 AM PST by ScareyFast63
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On 1/27/2009 Obama signed an exective order to bring 200-250 thousand people in from the GAZA strip all paid for by us.

Is this the beginning of his national police force?


17 posted on 02/20/2009 9:01:55 AM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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Somebody said he’s no lincoln—well, had it not been for lincoln there well never have been an “h”!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/lincoln-arch.html


19 posted on 02/20/2009 9:05:08 AM PST by gunnyg
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Interesting article.

Another thing Pr Obama may be overlooking is the military, enlisted and officer alike are sworn to defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic.

The author is correct in saying that if federal employees “went on strike”, so to speak, it would cripple him. That is true, but in the world of logistics, the more support “we the people” can get the better chance we have at winning the upcoming civil war.

Like the game of othello, any piece that could be on his side could also be on ours. What we need is not just people to go on strike, but to actively aid and assist: imagine what would happen if we had the electric companies on our side, we could shut down DC’s power-grid and snuff out some of his command-and-control ... same with the telephones. (maybe not ultra-high level, but certainly mid and low level comms)

The key to winning is Logistics. (Like popular support, ammo, food, fuel/transportation...)


20 posted on 02/20/2009 9:05:12 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Either we fight with all we have or soon all will have nothing. Economic chaos is Hussein’s first goal and the sooner is comes the faster he intends to move to the next step to consolidate his power base.


23 posted on 02/20/2009 9:07:49 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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Sir, there is an alternative:

The constitution allows the states to call a constitutional convention any time they like.
The sole purpose in this case would be for:

1. Ratification of an amendment repealing the 16th amendment.

2. Granting states sole responsibility for the collection of taxes from individual citizens and business except for tariffs.

3. Restrict congress from creating any law or taxes not specifically related to granted authorities as defined by the constitution.

Currently approximately 2/3 of the States are Red States. I believe a 2/3 majority is what would be required to ratify the constitution.

The 16th amendment gave birth to the Federal Government monster and the states are the ONLY entity that can possibly reign in the feds.

If it can be repealed we will have a much better chance of stopping the destruction of America. As part of the act of repeal, congress may not create any law not specifically related to its constitutionally authority.

Now is the time. The polls indicate a very low congressional approval of around 11%? Congress has overstepped its mandate considerably.

Almost half of the state legislatures are considering or have representatives preparing to introduce resolutions which reassert the principles of the 9th and 10th Amendments to the Constitution and the idea that federal power is strictly limited to specific areas detailed in the Constitution and that all other governmental authority rests with the states.

Now is the time. Please contact your state and local representatives and ask them to please consider the above!

24 posted on 02/20/2009 9:08:23 AM PST by Errant
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...

Civil War II ping.


65 posted on 02/20/2009 9:37:49 AM PST by Jack Black
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Should CW2 come, one of the first acts should be to mount a commando raid and break into that vault in Hawaii and liberate his birth certificate. I believe that will show that he is a usurper, and further undercut his legitimacy.


66 posted on 02/20/2009 9:38:26 AM PST by DMZFrank
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The Civil War was an instrument through which the federal gov’t, using force, destroyed the power and sovereignty of the states.

Bammy might be looking to complete the job.


68 posted on 02/20/2009 9:41:23 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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Where are the pictures of General Grant and the Union Army? Were General Grant and General Lee, classmates at West Point?/Just Asking - seoul62.......


72 posted on 02/20/2009 9:45:25 AM PST by seoul62
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Folks, here are comments from a very good friend with insight. Ahhhh, but consider the states that are currently providing the bulk of the troops to Federal Authority – they are the very states that provide most of the cannon fodder. People aren’t so easily led around by their noses anymore in this age of instant communication. The South, you will recall, was isolated, almost totally agrarian, lacked infrastructure, and was broke from day one. Loyalties will not break along the Mason Dixon Line, not even close. There won’t be a single consolidated region in revolt. There will pockets and bubbles and territories. States will split up in terms of loyalties. Look at southern Missouri and southern Illinois. Look at northern California and northern Louisiana. This is potentially a battle of red vs. blue, rural vs. urban. If it becomes a war, it can’t be a war of fronts and armies in maneuver. There could be an inter-military fight between those still loyal to the current power structure vs. those like us. We would win out on that one from force of numbers. After all, where would the bulk of loyalty of armed civilians lie? Yes, with the cause of overthrow of tyranny. Therfore, I see it as more of a coup. The people of St. Louis aren’t going to march on Potosi, MO to conquer hinterland territory for BO.

The biggest difference between this current crisis and the so-called Civil War (actually it should be called our Second Revolutionary War) is WILL! There is no overbearing will on the part of troops of the Federal Authority to fight their families in the hinterlands. It would be time to try a Ghandi-type move. March out there unarmed before them. They will NOT shoot! They took their oaths of loyalty to the Constitution and the officer corp will see BO for what he is.

The most likely scenario if things worsen is a military coup, a rule by martial law for a while, and a leader who wants to restore Constitutional law and will eventually step down or stand for election, not unlike George Washington. He will be the second Father of our Country. The bulk of the upper echelon officer corps are men of honor, not power grabbers – those are the politicians.


78 posted on 02/20/2009 9:55:46 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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Excellent article, very thought provoking.


91 posted on 02/20/2009 10:21:01 AM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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bump


93 posted on 02/20/2009 10:25:35 AM PST by Library Lady
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Texas ping. Hey Meekie, get your other TX list.


99 posted on 02/20/2009 10:38:06 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Each "Yea" vote for porkulus is equivalent to $3,267,973,850. (D) = corruption)
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Later


101 posted on 02/20/2009 10:43:20 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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