Posted on 02/19/2009 9:49:32 AM PST by Sammy67
A Dobson High School Advanced Placement government class with strong opinions about Barack Obama watched the president's speech Wednesday on a small, grainy TV in the corner of their classroom.
Principal, student talk hoops with Obama
Obama lays out plan amid hundreds at Dobson
Some of the students attentively watched the speech, giving questioning looks and comments, shaking their heads and laughing at some of Obama's words. Other students listened, occasionally glancing up to watch, while texting on their cell phones, reading a book or finishing school work.
The gymnasium's events were shown simultaneously in rooms throughout the Mesa school, and teachers were given discretion on whether to show the speech, the students said.
The students in the class were hopeful things will work out but questioned whether Obama's plan would actually work to dig the country out of its economic woes. They also expected a longer speech.
Senior Syna Daudfar took some notes during the speech and was among the most vocally opposed to Obama's words.
(Excerpt) Read more at eastvalleytribune.com ...
can’t link
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The Link is down, also did a search and found the website but it is down as well.
Luv your tagline!
Thanks, I modified it from a comment another FReeper made. I wish it was original, yet I’m sure many have had that thought before.
The story appears to have been pulled
Here is the article before it was pulled!
A Dobson High School Advanced Placement government class with strong opinions about Barack Obama watched the president’s speech Wednesday on a small, grainy TV in the corner of their classroom.
Principal, student talk hoops with Obama
Obama lays out plan amid hundreds at Dobson
Some of the students attentively watched the speech, giving questioning looks and comments, shaking their heads and laughing at some of Obama’s words. Other students listened, occasionally glancing up to watch, while texting on their cell phones, reading a book or finishing school work.
The gymnasium’s events were shown simultaneously in rooms throughout the Mesa school, and teachers were given discretion on whether to show the speech, the students said.
The students in the class were hopeful things will work out but questioned whether Obama’s plan would actually work to dig the country out of its economic woes. They also expected a longer speech.
Senior Syna Daudfar took some notes during the speech and was among the most vocally opposed to Obama’s words.
At one point, when he talked about the costs of his stimulus plan, senior Maaike Albach and Daudfar looked at each other and said, “uh-oh.”
“Overall I think it’s a good idea, but he’s not addressing the issues of the economic crisis,” said Daudfar, a John McCain supporter who added he leans more toward being a moderate conservative. “The spending bill he just passed is just progressing the Democratic agenda rather than addressing the economic issues in the country.”
Daudfar thinks Obama’s plan is backward and deals with the “less important stuff” first. “Bailing out businesses” and “providing better regulatory systems for giving out money to businesses” should have been first, he said.
“If businesses can’t afford to hire people, then people won’t be able to work and pay off their mortgages,” he said. “It’s kind of like putting money into a funnel.”
Albach, who is also a Republican, said Obama’s plan sounds good but questioned how Obama can want to rely on “people’s responsibility” when that is “what got us in this economic crisis in the first place.”
“This puts us more into debt,” said Albach, 18. “It’s a horrible situation we’re in.”
Senior Brandon Miller wore a shirt with the words, “Hitler gave great speeches, too” above a picture of Obama.
Miller said he had been an Obama supporter “because of his speeches,” but after debating the issues in this class and looking more into Obama’s policies, his vote was swayed toward McCain.
He showed a video on his camera he had just taken of the president’s minutelong motorcade and talked about what a “great experience” it was to watch it. Miller had also spent a couple of hours in front of the school, hanging out and watching the protesters.
“Even though I don’t support him, I think it’s cool he’s here,” said Miller, 18. “I just don’t believe all the things he’s telling us. His goal is just too big and broad.”
Miller wanted to hear more about the costs and guidelines the stimulus bill entails.
Senior Katelyn Meyer, who also leans more toward being a Republican, said Obama’s plan sounds good, “but it’s easier said than done.”
“I like the refinancing part, and I like the part about mortgages, but I’m afraid we’re going to put the money in but won’t see any effect,” said Meyer, 18, who still thought it was “cool” to say the president was at her school, even though she didn’t get to see him live.
The students also questioned why Obama chose their school for his speech since he wasn’t talking about education and wondered how much money the district spent on beautifying the campus while district positions and services are being cut.
District officials noted this week that the landscaping project completed over the weekend at Dobson was already in the works and was just expedited by the president’s visit. Funding came from voter-approved bonds.
New sod was laid in front of the school Tuesday, and Daudfar said, “The joke at the school is they’re going to take it away when he (Obama) leaves.”
AP government teacher Jeff Sherrer said his students “feel very strongly about the issues, maybe more than the general population.” He thought at least one of his students was outside protesting, and he had planned to take his students outside as a class project to show them what was going on but didn’t get the chance.
“These kinds of kids really get into it,” Sherrer said. “During the election we had lots of debates on the issues.”
Thanks, Sammy. I hope that’s the last time the little punk votes someone in office for his teleprompter prowess.
Rush read most of that article on the air today. See his website later for the transcript.
I was reading Rush’s site this evening and clicked on the link to this article. The article has changed to a pro Obama article! It has the same title, the same author and the same time. I then googled the article and pulled up the original cache.
I sent Rush an email about this.
Cached version:
Pro-obama version:
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135656
Even the cahce version is now the same as the edited version. Someone has to sanitize these things I guess. Can’t let anything negative get out.
0bama:“We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations.” William Ayers: Prairie Fire
Page 40 of the manuscript is typical: It outlines the Weather Underground’s strategies for overthrowing the United States. Among the many strategies are: eliminating the feeling of patriotism among the general public, destroying the government from within, and starting a mass insurrection among the lower classes.
“Our job is to tap the discontent seething in many sectors of the population, to find allies everywhere people are hungry or angry, to mobilize poor and working people against imperialism.” “Our final goal is the destruction of imperialism, the seizure of power, and the creation of socialism. Our strategy for this stage of the struggle is to organize the oppressed people of the imperial nation itself to join with the colonies in the attack on imperialism. This process of attacking and weakening imperialism involves the defeat of all kinds of national chauvinism and arrogance; this is a precondition to our fight for socialism.”
ZombieTime has acquired and scanned portions of a copy of Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism (1974), written by Weather Underground members Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Billy Ayers, and Celia Sojourn. William Ayers’ forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire
http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/
Oh, they’ve started a “Prairie Fire” alright, but it’s not the kind they intended.
And it’s not gonna work out quite the way they think.
The Tenth Amendment is unambiguous.
Gee, the original story that had people criticizing obama has been removed from the East Valley Tribune?
What a shock.
Thankfully it was found in its entirety on Drudge:
http://drudgereport.com/flashosk.htm
I copied it:
Dobson students question Obama’s Plan
Hayley Ringle, Tribune
February 18, 2009 - 2:59pm
Students inside Jeff Sherrer’s advanced placement government class view President Barack Obama’s address via closed circuit television on the campus of Dobson High School in Mesa. Feb. 18, 2009.
Tim Hacker, Tribune
Some of the students attentively watched the speech, giving questioning looks and comments, shaking their heads and laughing at some of Obama’s words. Other students listened, occasionally glancing up to watch, while texting on their cell phones, reading a book or finishing school work.
The gymnasium’s events were shown simultaneously in rooms throughout the Mesa school, and teachers were given discretion on whether to show the speech, the students said.
The students in the class were hopeful things will work out, but questioned whether Obama’s plan would actually work to dig the country out of its economic woes. They also expected a longer speech.
Senior Syna Daudfar took some notes during the speech and was among the most vocally opposed to Obama’s words.
At one point, when he talked about the costs of his stimulus plan, senior Maaike Albach and Daudfar looked at each other and said, “uh-oh.”
“Overall I think it’s a good idea, but he’s not addressing the issues of the economic crisis,” said Daudfar, a John McCain supporter who added that he leans more toward being a moderate conservative. “The spending bill he just passed is just progressing the Democratic agenda rather than addressing the economic issues in the country.”
Daudfar thinks Obama’s plan is backward and deals with the “less important stuff” first. “Bailing out businesses” and “providing better regulatory systems for giving out money to businesses” should have been first, he said.
“If businesses can’t afford to hire people, then people won’t be able to work and pay off their mortgages,” he said. “It’s kind of like putting money into a funnel.”
Albach, who is also a Republican, said Obama’s plan sounds good, but she questioned how Obama can want to rely on “people’s responsibility” when that is “what got us in this economic crisis in the first place.”
“This puts us more into debt,” said Albach, 18. “It’s a horrible situation we’re in.”
Senior Brandon Miller wore a shirt with the words, “Hitler gave great speeches, too” above a picture of Obama.
Miller said he had been an Obama supporter “because of his speeches,” but after debating the issues in this class and looking more into Obama’s policies, his vote was swayed toward McCain.
He showed a video on his camera he had just taken of the president’s minutelong motorcade and talked about what a “great experience” it was to watch it. Miller had also spent a couple of hours in front of the school, hanging out and watching the protesters.
“Even though I don’t support him, I think it’s cool he’s here,” said Miller, 18. “I just don’t believe all the things he’s telling us. His goal is just too big and broad.”
Miller wanted to hear more about the costs and guidelines the stimulus bill entails.
Senior Katelyn Meyer, who also leans more toward being a Republican, said Obama’s plan sounds good, “but it’s easier said than done.”
“I like the refinancing part, and I like the part about mortgages, but I’m afraid we’re going to put the money in but won’t see any effect,” said Meyer, 18, who still thought it was “cool” to say that the president was at her school, even though she didn’t get to see him live.
The students also questioned why Obama chose their school for his speech since he wasn’t talking about education and wondered how much money the district spent on beautifying the campus while district positions and services are being cut.
District officials noted this week that the landscaping project completed over the weekend at Dobson was already in the works and was just expedited by the president’s visit. Funding came from voter-approved bonds.
New sod was laid in front of the school Tuesday, and Daudfar said, “The joke at the school is they’re going to take it away when he (Obama) leaves.”
AP government teacher Jeff Sherrer said his students “feel very strongly about the issues, maybe more than the general population.” He thought at least one of his students was outside protesting, and he had planned to take his students outside as a class project to show them what was going on, but didn’t get the chance.
“These kinds of kids really get into it,” Sherrer said. “During the election, we had lots of debates on the issues.”
The President has a plan?
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