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FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged, The Climax of the d'Anconias
A Publius Essay | 14 February 2009 | Publius

Posted on 02/14/2009 11:27:03 AM PST by Publius

Part I: Non-Contradiction

Chapter V: The Climax of the d’Anconias

Synopsis

Eddie hands a newspaper to Dagny; it has a most interesting story. The People’s State of Mexico, upon inspecting the expropriated San Sebastian Mines, discovers that they are devoid of copper and utterly worthless. Dagny asks Eddie to call Francisco at the Wayne-Falkland Hotel for an appointment.

What follows is an extended flashback into the childhood of Dagny, Eddie, Francisco and Jim at the Taggart estate on the Hudson.

Francisco got a job at Taggart Transcontinental before Dagny, working illicitly as a call boy at a station on the Hudson Line. Each intended to eventually run the family business. Unlike those d’Anconias who increased the family holdings by a mere 10%, Francisco’s goal was to double them.

Francisco went to Patrick Henry University of Cleveland, the most distinguished institution of learning left in the world, but Francisco did not find all the courses interesting. He made only two close friends at college. (A major plot point for later!)

One incident shaped the relationship between Dagny and Francisco. When Dagny suggested that she get poor grades in order to be popular, Francisco slapped her – and she liked it.

Dagny began the competition with Francisco by taking a job as night operator on the railroad at a nearby station while only sixteen. She went through life without male admirers, and her idea of a good time was working on the railroad. After a formal ball, she noted that she could have squashed ten of the men she had met. It was in her freshman year at college that Dagny and Francisco became lovers.

Francisco not only went to college, but by playing the stock market he amassed enough money to buy the copper foundry where he had been working secretly at night. Following college, Francisco worked for his father. One night, meeting Dagny in New York, he said, “There’s something wrong with the world.” A few years later he told Dagny not to be astonished by anything he did in the future and asked her to leave the railroad and let it go to hell under Jim’s stewardship. He warned her that the next time they met, she wouldn’t want to see him. Over the years Francisco morphed into a worthless playboy squandering the d’Anconia fortune.

Returning to the present, Dagny goes to Francisco’s room at the hotel and finds him playing with marbles on the floor like a child. Dagny has figured out part of what Francisco intended with the San Sebastian Mines swindle. He has hurt the looters’ government of Mexico and his American investors, but Dagny can’t penetrate to the heart of what he has done.

Dagny administers a shock to Francisco when she brings up the Fifth Concerto of Richard Halley. Francisco avoids a direct answer and says that Halley has stopped composing.

Francisco lays out the reaction of the Mexican government, which had made promises to its people to be delivered by the confiscation of the mines. Now the government has to blame the greedy capitalists. The miners’ town he built was made of shoddy material and will be gone within a year. He has cost the railroad and his investors millions. Taggart Transcontinental will fail, and Ellis Wyatt will be the next to go under. He tells Dagny as she is leaving that she is not ready to hear the reasons behind what he is doing.

The Purpose of This Chapter

We’ve met Dagny, Hank and their enemies. We’ve heard about Francisco, but we’ve never met him. Now we find out about the long history of Dagny and Francisco, both in business and on a personal basis. We also find that Francisco is involved in some kind of project aimed at destroying certain people, companies and countries, but we don’t know why. (This is the book’s plot.)

Landmarks

The Wayne-Falkland Hotel is based upon the real life Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in Manhattan.

The Taggart estate is based upon one of many Vanderbilt holdings, all of which were built by the descendants of Cornelius Vanderbilt of the New York Central. “Commodore” Vanderbilt himself lived modestly in lower Manhattan. Both Vanderbilt and James Jerome Hill were models for Nat Taggart.

Ayn Rand and Sex

There are no children in this book; the plot is about adults and adult matters. It is only in this chapter that we meet our characters as teenagers and we find Francisco and Dagny as lovers.

Francisco’s slapping Dagny after that comment about doing poorly in school to gain popularity requires some history about the period. In that era popularity was considered more important than academic excellence. Smart people weren’t popular, which is why young Ronald Reagan hid his questing mind in the disguise of a backslapping athlete. Even as an adult, Reagan hid his cerebral qualities from others, which is why he was characterized incorrectly by Clark Clifford as an “amiable dunce”. Understanding this in its historical context, Dagny’s comment to Francisco was not totally out of bounds.

However, when she is slapped, Dagny finds that she likes it. There is an undercurrent of precocious sexuality and sadomasochism in that slap. When she and Francisco lose their virginity together, the prose turns purple.

“She knew that fear was useless, that he would do what he wished, that the decision was his, that he left nothing possible to her except the thing she wanted most – to submit. She had no conscious realization of his purpose, her vague knowledge of it was wiped out, she had no power to believe it clearly, in this moment, to believe it about herself, she knew only that she was afraid – yet what she felt was as if she were crying to him: Don’t ask me for it – oh, don’t ask me – do it!”

This is Rand’s updated version of the “aching need” that appears in The Fountainhead. People who are devoutly religious become queasy at this passage and again when Rand waxes philosophical.

”’Isn’t it wonderful that our bodies can give us so much pleasure?’, he said to her once, quite simply. They were happy and radiantly innocent. They were both incapable of the conception that joy is sin ... She knew the general doctrine on sex, held by people in one form or another, the doctrine that sex was an ugly weakness of man’s lower nature, to be condoned regretfully. She experienced an emotion of chastity that made her shrink, not from the desires of her body, but from any contact with the minds who held this doctrine.”

Rand here disposes of the puritanical branch of Judeo-Christianity in a few well honed sentences. She not only supports the Dagny-Francisco relationship but condemns those who would criticize it in the name of a narrow, outmoded morality. Exceptional people – the Creators – make their own rules, which may well be a tip of the hat to Nietzsche.

But Dagny has had no other partners this far into the story, and it appears that Francisco has not either. Both remain true to each other, defining their own concept of chastity. This elevates sexuality into something sacred and transcendent, which is another theme of the book.

Patrick Henry University

Don’t confuse this fictional school with the very real Patrick Henry College of Purcellville, VA.

One of the most enjoyable Marx Brothers movies was “Horse Feathers”, a 1932 musical comedy that revolves around the football rivalry between Darwin and Huxley colleges. The opening number has Groucho and a chorus of professors singing:

I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway;
Whatever it is, I'm against it!

Colleges of the Twenties were profoundly conservative institutions, hard as that may be to believe today. The concept of academic freedom was by no means guaranteed, be the professor tenured or not. The Great Depression was to change all that, and soon the economic theories of Karl Marx began to replace those of Groucho Marx. The great institutions of the Ivy League led the way.

It would appear that even during the Forties and Fifties, Rand held a low enough opinion of the Ivy League to locate her ideal university in Cleveland, an industrial city not known as a great seat of learning. In fact, the business of Cleveland was manufacturing.

Naming a university dedicated to reason to Patrick Henry, however, is just as problematic as naming a fundamentalist Christian college after the same man, which is what happened in Purcellville. Henry does not fit the stereotype of either a man of objective reason or of religious faith. His life and legacy are far more complicated.

Patrick Henry belongs to the same group as Thomas Paine and Samuel Adams, revolutionaries who lit the flame that George Washington kept from being extinguished. Like Adams, Henry had failed in business many times, but while Adams became a wizard at the art of political propaganda, Henry turned instead to the law. As a lawyer, Henry stood for home rule and economic self-determination, siding with the ancient British tradition of being taxed by one’s own legislators. He further argued that colonial legislatures could not assign that right to Parliament. Because Parliament had long exercised a general right to tax the colonies, Henry’s assertion was considered treasonous.

In addition to the above principles, Henry’s intellectual justification for separation from Britain revolved around corruption. There is a tendency to look at that period of American history and see a halcyon era when corruption didn’t exist. In fact, the colonial governments of early America were every bit as corrupt as some state governments today. Wherever there is a pipeline of government “cheese”, there are mice and rats attempting to divert some of that “cheese“ into their private larders. For Henry, gold and silver were too important to be diverted into the mouths of grifters, looters and moochers, which is why he became the scourge of corruption in Virginia politics. He could personally fight corruption in Williamsburg, but the corruption in London was so entrenched it could only be fought by separation. Rand must have viewed Henry as an early American model.

Following the Revolution, Henry opposed the adoption of the Constitution, arguing that it gave the federal government too much power, and his opposition led to the Bill of Rights. Yet a decade later, he executed a complete turnaround and switched to the Federalist Party, backing Washington, Adams and John Marshall, and going so far as to argue that the Jefferson-Madison Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions, supporting a state’s right of nullification, would lead to civil war. He died the same year as George Washington.

Some Discussion Topics

  1. The philosophical conversations among Dagny, Francisco and Jim at the Taggart estate reveal much about their characters and hold a lot of material for discussion. Francisco: ”So I want to be prepared to claim the greatest virtue of all – that I was a man who made money.” Jim: “Virtue is the price of admission.” Then there is Jim’s lecture to Francisco about selfish greed and social responsibilities. Dagny: ”Francisco, what’s the most depraved type of human being?” Francisco: “The man without a purpose.” Francisco: “The code of competence is the only system of morality that’s on a gold standard.” These snippets are better at conveying information than the long set pieces to come. Discuss the differences between these people and how the differences determine their characters.
  2. There have only been two couples engaging actively in sex in the book so far: Dagny Taggart with Francisco d’Anconia, and James Taggart with Betty Pope. Compare and contrast.
  3. ”The government of the People’s State of Mexico has issued a proclamation ... asking the people to be patient and put up with hardships just a little longer ... Now the planners are asking their people not to blame the government, but to blame the depravity of the rich...” Are there already echoes of this in today’s headlines?
  4. ”Who is John Galt?” It would be a spoiler to explore the rich irony of that question coming from Francisco. But based on what we know at this point, why is it a surprise to hear it from Francisco? How does it differ from everyone else who has said it?

Next Saturday: The Non-Commercial


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To: whodathunkit
What would John Galt say?

That would make a good tag line or bumper sticker!

201 posted on 02/15/2009 8:57:27 PM PST by gracie1
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To: TASMANIANRED
Rush has enough money to buy NZ and ship all the inhabitants to Australia.

LOL!

What's the draw to Brazil?
202 posted on 02/15/2009 9:23:24 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: TASMANIANRED
The left....despite what they claim they believe are actually elitists..

The basic concept liberals believe is that people are stupid. They need handouts, government intervention, and can't handle life on their own. When confronted with someone that isn't in that category, they have somehow cheated to get there (it's never because of their own work ethic or perseverence).

I've been pointing out this very thing to libs lately. Mainly because I'm sick of talking of any of them. So I decided I wouldn't play their game by arguing with them, but point out their underlying assumption behind their ideology. All deny it, of course. But cannot argue that their philosophy in many areas certainly sound as if they think people are inept. They really don't know what to do at that point ;)
203 posted on 02/15/2009 9:27:50 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Explorer89
We are emphasizing that self-esteem has to be earned through hard work. It is ok if they work really hard at something and fail. We still praise the effort. That is life. Sometimes you work really hard at work, and you don’t get the promotion, you still need to take pride in the fact that you did your best. But I can be pretty cutting when I know they did a half-a$$ed job to begin with. No points for showing up. I’m wondering if my children are going to need therapy when they grow up......

Not at all. The kids that got something for nothing will need the therapy. Yours will be just fine.
204 posted on 02/15/2009 9:29:29 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: TASMANIANRED
Even the Great One screwed up...1) Amnesty

Well, he did think it would be the last amnesty plus border enforcement would take place after. And he did admit later that it was a mistake. The latter I appreciate, even though Bush didn't learn from this. Learning from the mistakes of others is a good trait. Close to learning from your own mistakes, which the GOP isn't doing either.
205 posted on 02/15/2009 9:33:54 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Publius
Francisco: “The man without a purpose.” Francisco: “The code of competence is the only system of morality that’s on a gold standard.”

The more I read this book, the more one-sided the characters seem. The 'good' guys are certainly competent w/r career, but seem really stunted emotionally. Is this on purpose or just they way she writes? It'll be hard for me to even warm up to John Galt if he is driven to work, but can't take the time for a relationship of some sorts. Speaking of which, Francisco disappearing for years and then getting together with Dagney without a word of explanation and expecting things to be the same is a pretty arrogant thing to do. Sadly, I'm just not liking these characters much. On the other hand, I like the other characters even less, so in comparison, I guess it all works out.
206 posted on 02/15/2009 9:37:46 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Savagemom
#1 - Jim seems to think of “virtue” and profitability as being mutually exclusive

My problem with Jim is that he professes that virtue and profitability are mutually exclusive, and really tries to convince himself that he isn't interested in profit. He is completely lying to himself. He loves the lavish lifestyle (as we see later).

If greed was not his motive, then he would have run his Mexican line anywhere, it did not have to be to the D'Anconia mines. He thought that Franscisco had the magic touch, or that at least Francisco did his due diligence, so Jim expected that rail line to make money! Oh, it was for the good of the Mexican people "who never had a chance".

If Jim was not interested in making money, he would have never invested in those mines at all. And he would not have cared when they collapsed.

207 posted on 02/16/2009 4:12:14 AM PST by Explorer89 (Could you direct me to the Coachella Valley, and the carrot festival, therein?)
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To: gracie1

The Democrats have won the class warfare argument. They have managed to convince a sufficient number of voters, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that the Democrats are the party of the “little people.” and that they will look out for their welfare. For some reason, Democrat voters believe that it is OK for the governemnt to steal money FRom the “wich, wascally wepublicans” and give to the poor.

And, therein lies our problem. There is no demonstrable indication that the Great Society worked. Yet, Democrats keep on pounding the theme, and they keep getting elected, and they keep expanding the welfare state.

Tax, tax, tax. Spend, spend, spend. Elect, elect, elect.

The Republicans have never developed an effective counter-argument, and by trying to become “Democrat Light” (not tax QUITE as much, not spend QUITE as much, advocate a smaller welfare state, etc., etc.), they have effectively emasculated themselves.

One would think that by now, Republicans would recognize the error of their ways, make their case, run as Conservatives and be proud to be opposed to the LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist agenda.

Maybe this past electoral cycle will become a permanent eye-opener for them: There cannot be two Democrat parties! If the Democrats are LIEberal, then the Republicans must be conservative — “Democrat LIght” will not win elections.

That is what AS is all about, IMHO.


208 posted on 02/16/2009 5:51:34 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: tndarlin

I understand your point of view on this one scene for this one chapter. There will be more on this topic in later chapters... I see you haven’t finished reading the book yet, so I don’t want to spoil anything. This was my first time reading it, too, and I pushed myself to finish reading the whole book.


209 posted on 02/16/2009 7:10:09 AM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: whodathunkit

After reading your post, I decided to watch the Wallace interview. I enjoyed it and share your opinion of it. Yes, timeless. And frighteningly prophetic. She says we’re headed to disaster, and she is right.

But, her “philosophy” on (specifically) relations between men and women, as it is put forth in AS, is not timeless, imho. What I find interesting is that Wallace doesn’t question her about it. Maybe he doesn’t bother because her viewpoint (on that one topic) is typical for that time period. More in later chapters...


210 posted on 02/16/2009 8:17:20 AM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: I see my hands

http://librivox.org/anthem-by-ayn-rand/

Free audio book ........Anthem !


211 posted on 02/16/2009 8:47:27 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Tired of Taxes
But, her “philosophy” on (specifically) relations between men and women, as it is put forth in AS, is not timeless, imho

Yes, I agree with your take on this.

The answers that she gave during the interview were intended to inform those interested in her particular philosophy.

In contrast...

Some situations in the book were included, I believe, to make her book more readable. A dissertation on Objectivism would have been rather dry reading. Not being an expert on Ayn Rand, I think that she understood that writing fiction was an effective way to explain her philosophy to the masses.

I discussed this earlier in another post. I decided that I was taking AS too literally because of my expectations. Since then I have decided to read for pleasure and not get caught up in the details. After all, Rand must have come to a similar decision when she decided to write fiction. She does a credible job translating her philosophy based on 'A is A' into the 'A is ?' of her intended readership.

212 posted on 02/16/2009 9:50:32 AM PST by whodathunkit (Shrugging as I leave for the Gulch)
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To: quintr

Ping to Chapter 5.


213 posted on 02/16/2009 10:37:34 AM PST by Publius (The Quadri-Metallic Standard: Gold and silver for commerce; lead and brass for protection.)
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To: Publius

Bump for reading later.


214 posted on 02/16/2009 11:28:31 AM PST by Indy Pendance (Abortion: It's not for the young anymore)
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To: 21stCenturion

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215 posted on 02/16/2009 11:29:18 AM PST by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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To: Publius

Read it the first time when I was 14 (1957). Don’t think it hurt me much. ‘Course I AM a free-market, constitution-thumping libertarian now, so maybe I’m wrong.

Kirk


216 posted on 02/16/2009 1:44:45 PM PST by woodnboats
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To: CottonBall

Brazil despite some problems with poverty in certain segments and the crime that goes with it, is largely in the place that the US was 100 years ago.

Largely undeveloped with tremendous natural resources completely untapped.

They have a market economy with huge oil reserves . They haven’t gotten to the point of punishing achievement yet.


217 posted on 02/16/2009 2:17:04 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
They haven’t gotten to the point of punishing achievement yet.

IMO, that's the most important thing. Having natural resources is meaningless without it.

Looks like she has great potential. While we're on the downward slide. ;(
218 posted on 02/16/2009 5:22:51 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: mnehrling
It is so important for informed people to read Atlas Shrugged now, because we are seeing the re-birth of extreme Socialism like nobody could ever imagine. Ayn Rand was a prophet ahead of her time. The government is killing the economic engine by removing incentives. I'm so troubled by it. While the rest of the world is beginning to recognize that socialism doesn't work, we're reinventing it. And why? Because our schools either aren't teaching history or those in authority learned nothing from it.

Those of you with Kindles from Amazon can get it

219 posted on 02/17/2009 8:13:04 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: Publius
3. ”The government of the People’s State of Mexico has issued a proclamation ... asking the people to be patient and put up with hardships just a little longer ... Now the planners are asking their people not to blame the government, but to blame the depravity of the rich...” Are there already echoes of this in today’s headlines?

Manhunt: Accused Financier Scammer Stanford Missing. Authorities say Investor Losses Could Rival Madoff Scandal

Texas financier R. Allen Stanford is accused of cheating 50,000 customers out of $8 billion dollars but despite raids Tuesday of his financial empire in Houston, Memphis, and Tupelo, Miss., federal authorities say they do not know the current whereabouts of the CEO.

This does not directly address your question, but it does mirror events in the book.

220 posted on 02/18/2009 7:13:56 AM PST by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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