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Teenage Sister Of Boy Who Became A Father At 13 Had Baby When She Was The Same Age
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1144244/Teenage-sister-boy-father-13-baby-age.html ^ | February 14, 2009

Posted on 02/14/2009 10:11:20 AM PST by Steelfish

Teenage sister of boy who became a father at 13 had baby when she was the same age

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER 14th February 2009

He is barely four feet tall and looks even younger than his 13 years. Yet Alfie Patten has just become the proud father of a baby girl.

The schoolboy was only 12 when his girlfriend Chantelle Stedman - who is 15 - conceived after a night of unprotected sex.

Young Alfie appeared on the YouTube video website yesterday, cradling Maisie Roxanne. Her birth, on Monday, has provoked a new political row over 'broken Britain'.

But its significance may be lost on Alfie, whose immaturity is evident during the brief video clip, filmed after the couple's story was sold to The Sun and they appeared on the newspaper's front page yesterday.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alfiepatten
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1 posted on 02/14/2009 10:11:20 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
When kids have kids there is a multi generational parenting problem. What do you want to guess the church attendance record of the family is or whether or not there is a permanent, live in father present?
2 posted on 02/14/2009 10:15:36 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Steelfish

Atrocious parenting


3 posted on 02/14/2009 10:15:37 AM PST by SouthernmostFreeper (Change is all you will have left... Pocket Change)
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To: Steelfish

Abstinence plus temptation minus moral training, without accountability = unwed teen births, abortion fodder and excuses for a Nanny State.

Abstinence until marriage creates no guilt and prevents the majority of factors that cause dysfunctional households.

True religion is ministering to widows and orphans with compassion...which helps to end the dysfunction from within.


4 posted on 02/14/2009 10:18:09 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Steelfish
These are our celebrities, folks.

Alfie, the 13 year old father on the public dole, and Octopussy, the welfare queen with the taxpayer subsidized litter.

No wonder I drink.

5 posted on 02/14/2009 10:20:40 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Steelfish

After seeing that kid, I am pretty sure he was snookered into playing “having sex” after she was already pregnant by an older guy.


6 posted on 02/14/2009 10:43:12 AM PST by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: Lizavetta

UK is a nation full of nutcases. Ms. Suleman would fit there very nicely.


7 posted on 02/14/2009 10:47:24 AM PST by Roger_Wildcat
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To: conservative cat

That is my thought also.


8 posted on 02/14/2009 10:47:51 AM PST by Roger_Wildcat
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To: conservative cat
After seeing that kid, I am pretty sure he was snookered into playing “having sex” after she was already pregnant by an older guy.

Yeah, I'm not buying this story either. Has anyone done a paternity test or did they just take her word on it?

9 posted on 02/14/2009 10:50:14 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Steelfish

Any time you pay people to lay around and make babies this is going to happen


10 posted on 02/14/2009 11:04:45 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings; wardaddy

F’in chavs. A damn shame the Labourites have allowed these idiots to continue to reproduce, despite the deindustrialization of the economy, and the increase professionalization of warfare (the English lower classes were traditionally used as point men/cannon fodder, which served to cull the herd).


11 posted on 02/14/2009 11:08:52 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Natural Law
What do you want to guess the church attendance record of the family is

Black Americans have the highest rate of church attendance of any racial group in America, yet also the highest rate of illegitimacy. Have never seen a study comparing rates of illegitimacy by church attendance, however.

12 posted on 02/14/2009 11:10:37 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Steelfish

I’d read, when this first hit the news, that the young girl’s mother would allow the boy to sleep over with her daughter from time to time. HELLO?!! Why would anyone be surprised that the girl got pregnant?


13 posted on 02/14/2009 11:24:28 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: conservative cat
It's not necessarily physiologically impossible that it's Alfie's kid. But the people in the neighborhood all think the girl sleeps around. A lot. With her parents' knowledge and approval.

Alfie's mother looks truly scary, like a meth head.

14 posted on 02/14/2009 11:33:17 AM PST by Campion
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To: conservative cat
After seeing that kid, I am pretty sure he was snookered into playing “having sex” after she was already pregnant by an older guy.

I suspect you're right. He doesn't have any of the usual signs of physical maturation that would indicate he could actually father a child. A very little boy is capable of having an erection and physically conducting the sex act, but that hairless child probably doesn't produce mature sperm.

15 posted on 02/14/2009 11:40:24 AM PST by ottbmare
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To: ottbmare; conservative cat

You’re both right. And if you read the Sun’s articles
carefully, the girl’s acquaintances accuse her of being
considerably less innocent than she claims.


16 posted on 02/14/2009 12:07:07 PM PST by HelenChicago
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To: SuziQ

According to this article, not just Alfie, but other boys, too...in the daughter’s bedroom.

Even a 17 YO neighbor boy says that Alfie should get a DNA test.

The girl’s mother had to be complicit in it. RFollow the money.

At the very end of the article...
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Family can claim £30,000 beneftsChantelle Stedman can claim no benefits until she reaches 16, her next birthday.

But state benefits to support her and her baby will be paid to her mother Penny until then.
At a minimum, the family can expect to receive around £30,000 a year - close to £600 a week.

Penny, 38, will claim benefits to support herself and her four children including Chantelle.

She will also claim on behalf of new-born Maisie.

The family may claim benefits on the basis that Penny’s unemployed partner Steve is a live-in member of the household.
If so, their claims may look like this:

Child Benefit: Paid automatically for each child - £72.80 a week.
Council Tax Benefit: Likely to cover the full bill - £30 a week.
Child Tax Credit: Now the main payment to support children of out-of-work or low income mothers. Possible payment for the five Stedman children - £221 a week.
Income Support: If paid to Penny and Steve as a live-in couple - £94.95 a week.
Housing Benefit: Likely to cover the full rent of their council house, together with any service charges. This may be - £150 a week.
Total: £568.75 a week, or £29,575 a year.


Also, she lives in a “council house”; boy’s family lives in a 250,000 pound (~$500,000) home.


17 posted on 02/14/2009 12:37:09 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: Clemenza
"Black Americans have the highest rate of church attendance of any racial group in America, yet also the highest rate of illegitimacy."<.I>

That presumes homogeneity within the sample population. I'll bet if you were to poll only the regular church attendees you would find correlation with other racial groups.

18 posted on 02/14/2009 1:35:22 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: ottbmare

Actually, infamous teacher Mary Kay Letourneau was impregnated the first time by student and now husband Vili Fualaau when he was barely 13 years old. Faulaa was born in June 1983 and their first child was born in June 1997.


19 posted on 02/14/2009 4:27:26 PM PST by hout8475
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To: hout8475

There’s thirteen and then there’s thirteen. There are some 12- and 13-year-old boys at my kids’ school who were grown men. Of them, I’d believe it. This little Alfie, with no Adam’s apple, no jaw, the skin of a baby, and no muscular development? I don’t think so. There’s a noticeable dearth of testosterone in that child.


20 posted on 02/14/2009 4:50:11 PM PST by ottbmare
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