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McCain: stimulus bill has too much spending
AP ^ | 2009-02-02

Posted on 02/02/2009 5:59:58 AM PST by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON -- Senator John McCain says there's too much unnecessary spending and too few tax cuts in the Obama administration's economic proposals to stimulate the economy.

The Arizona Republican and former presidential candidate also complains the plan has no "endgame."

Interviewed Monday on CBS's "The Early Show," McCain said that after the economy recovers the U.S. should "be on a path to a balanced budget."

Instead, he says, the Democrats' plan would burden future generations of Americans with the biggest budget deficit in history.

He says it's time for both parties to sit down and negotiate. He says the Democrats need to consider his party's concerns, especially on cutting taxes.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2009; bhostimulus; economy; mcbama; mccain; mccainsinterference; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; pork; porkulus; rino; senate; stimulus; ussenate
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To: Cedric; DoughtyOne; Bokababe; rabscuttle385
Where are your "Independent" office holders? Where are your electoral victories? Where's your party structure, your name ID?

More to the point, where are yours? We gave you the most powerful party in the country, and all of the houses of government... Look at you now... Threatening people, bully tactics, jingle politics, and going downhill fast.

One can readily hear Whig party sycophants trying to keep the Republicans down the very same way back in Lincoln's day.

Earlier I labeled you as political morons. Be happy: The alternative is much more sinister.

LOL! Your opinions carry no weight with anyone who would matter to me. I've somewhat over three thousand posts here, declaring my position very clearly. Knock yourself out. Make your case.

Conservatives, myself among them, withstood the whole nine yards of y'all during the election and never budged a hair's-breadth. Certainly your pitiful proclamations won't make any difference.

181 posted on 02/02/2009 6:09:06 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: roamer_1

LOL, sad isn’t it. There are a lot of well meaning Republicans out there who haven’t a clue.

Look at how far left this nation has gone in just the last twenty years. If the Republican Party wasn’t a problem, we would have broken even over the last twenty years.

I don’t think anyone buys that line of reasoning. They should just accept the fact that we are being sold out. That’s the long and the short of it.

Country Club RINO Republicans must go. That’s the long and the short of it.


182 posted on 02/02/2009 6:13:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: Cedric; rabscuttle385
I'll be watching.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That would be funnier still, if it wasn't so pathetic.

183 posted on 02/02/2009 6:20:29 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: Cedric

Real piece of work


184 posted on 02/02/2009 6:32:10 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: MaggieCarta; indylindy; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...
Evenin' all.

Scattered reports are in that McCain's..."contribution" to the economic stimulus bill may include an "earmark reform" amendment, authored in conjunction with Sen. Feingold (D-Wis.).

More specifically:

Another Wisconsin lawmaker is also calling for changes to the stimulus bill. Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold is teaming up once again with Republican Sen. John McCain to introduce an amendment to the bill. They are calling it an 'earmark reform' -- to ensure that the plan doesn't include any wasteful spending -- and directs resources to projects that will, in Feingold's words, actually create jobs. Some changes to the bill appear likely.

Source: WISN ABC TV Channel 12, Milwaukee, Wis. at 21:30 Eastern on 2/02/2009
http://www.wisn.com/politics/18625646/detail.html

Just a heads up. Looks like McCain is going to screw the pooch again by running interference for the leftist Democrats and drawing attention from DeMint's significant and permanent tax reduction proposal.

185 posted on 02/02/2009 6:48:04 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

But then this is what John does. We got rock solid opposition to a bill, and John finds a way to defeat that solid front. He is the Dutch boy with a finger, in reverse. He pulls out his finger and kicks the damn so more cracks appear. He’ll have people supporting this bill in no time.

And his fix will resemble his fix to Campaign Finance, no fix at all.


186 posted on 02/02/2009 6:55:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Earmark reform” LOL

Guess nobody told Juan, you can’t make a purse out of a sow’s ear.


187 posted on 02/02/2009 6:57:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: DoughtyOne
[...] sad isn’t it. There are a lot of well meaning Republicans out there who haven’t a clue.

Agreed. Perhaps I am overly harsh, but they must be disabused of the notion that the Republican Party is going to save them. It isn't. Thirty years of track record is more than enough proof of that.

Look at how far left this nation has gone in just the last twenty years. If the Republican Party wasn’t a problem, we would have broken even over the last twenty years.

We are far, far from that, it's true.It has gone past the point of simply being the "stupid party". They are clearly not only *not* supporting Conservatism, they do not oppose Liberalism, which is the greater evidence against them.

I don’t think anyone buys that line of reasoning. They should just accept the fact that we are being sold out.

Not just "we" as in Conservatives. The very sovereignty of this country is in peril. It is the collective WE, as in all of us, that are being sold out.

Country Club RINO Republicans must go. That’s the long and the short of it.

While I remain willing to join forces with the Republicans again in such a circumstance, I do not harbor the faintest hope of that happening in a productive way. It is the Republicans that have to go, I am afraid.

Otherwise, whatever gains we might make will be quickly snuffed out again, just as they have been in the past- Reagan's foot had hardly left the White House and the leadership was right back to their schedule under GHWB. The gavel barely closed the 1994 Congress before the RNC was back in moderate hands, reducing Conservatives by attrition, choking them off from money and support.

I will remain fully mobilized against the Republicans for that reason- A house divided cannot stand. We now require real and uncompromising opposition from genuine Conservative statesmen. We will stand a better chance of such a thing beginning from the ground up with a party based in Reaganism, born in statesmanship, than we ever will rooting out the weasels and traitors inhabiting the Republican party.

If a real and loyal opposition is not raised up, and right now, the only alternative left to us will be blood and lead. While I am thoroughly convinced that we are hopelessly committed to that only dire alternative, and am planning accordingly, I do pray that the good Lord will grant us mercy and raise up the people we need to remove these useless posers from our midst and re-establish America in the principles she was founded upon.

188 posted on 02/02/2009 7:11:34 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t know how many times we have to highlight that McCain is a PR-machine for the leftist Democrats. This “earmark reform” is just another example.

I don’t know if you’ve seen this on Daschle in Salon, but it mentions McCain and Daschle in their “bipartisanship” while Daschle is milking from Alston & Bird, McCain’s lawfirm du jour: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/01/daschle/index.html


189 posted on 02/02/2009 7:14:56 PM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: rabscuttle385
Just a heads up. Looks like McCain is going to screw the pooch again by running interference for the leftist Democrats and drawing attention from DeMint's significant and permanent tax reduction proposal.

The betrayer betrays. That is what they do. He will march to the front of the line, act like he is leading the parade, make little or no difference, and claim significant victory.

Remember, the last time McCain opposed such a thing, that is exactly what he did, just prior to jumping on the bandwagon on the second go-around for MORE pork, and MORE earmarks...

190 posted on 02/02/2009 7:22:02 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: roamer_1; bamahead
"If they were merely statists, They would not be so quick to remove their own apparent power. "

And I agree completely -- I used the word "statist" far too loosely in that context. These are obviously not nationalists, because as you pointed out they could care less about our sovereignty or anyone else's. My intention was that they lean toward totalitarianism, but I was unclear.

As for the quote, it's thanks to bamahead -- I've been stealing quotes off his FR page for the last two days!

191 posted on 02/02/2009 7:39:28 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: rabscuttle385; Cedric
But, alas, all too often you’re left stranded, alone and at my mercy by the aforementioned posse.

Gee, rabs, I am really sorry. I didn't recognize your ping as a "plaintive cry for help". I always drop by to see you whippin' Cedric's butt like a two dollar mule, and laugh at the result. You never seemed that "plaintive" to me. You should work on that. :D

192 posted on 02/02/2009 7:41:33 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: roamer_1
"While I remain willing to join forces with the Republicans again in such a circumstance, I do not harbor the faintest hope of that happening in a productive way. It is the Republicans that have to go, I am afraid."

I am not sure that you realized just how entrenched the Democrats and Republicans are into the system. Even Ron Paul realized how difficult it would be to dislodge them.

Are you aware of "The International Republican Institute" or it's Democratic counterpart, "The National Democratic Institute"? They are governments within the government -- paid for by us. Try this --

193 posted on 02/02/2009 7:50:42 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: TigersEye
Music is meant to energize passions while elevator music is meant to quell them. RINOs aim to subvert and quell conservatism.

A brilliant observation, TigersEye- Quite up to your usual standards. Thanks for the reply.

194 posted on 02/02/2009 7:51:52 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: MaggieCarta; indylindy; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...
Obviously McCain's record is worth our suspicions. What is alarming is that republican senators are saying that the bill needs more infer-structure (roads and bridges) projects. Like Schiff says. Lets wait until we can afford them, and maybe the federal government shouldnt be the first to fund them (ie the constitution.)

This may leave our last hope to our ally Nancy Pelosi. We need to flood her office with phone calls supporter her efforts to change the planet and 2000 years of human history and biology in one bill. People are suffering for 8 years of republican greed! Tell her this may be her last chance to right hundreds of years of wrongs, mention “social justice” a few times. Tell her you have been patiently waiting for 2 years of excuses and SHE promised this day would come.

And what about that family planning (baby killing) funding that got dropped? I thought Obama’s priority was women's reproductive rights? Remind her Obama is a man!

OK, I can't make it any easier, and please no hate mail to our liberal luney tune (I know you folks). Do you want this to pass or fail? Obama socialism revolution success or failure?

Email Congresswoman Pelosi

195 posted on 02/02/2009 7:52:30 PM PST by sickoflibs (Pelosi: " We will create jobs by teaching kids to use condoms in recovery bill")
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To: roamer_1
You never seemed that "plaintive" to me. You should work on that.

I am plaintive that jackasses like McCain and his crash of RINOs were allowed to roam freely, tearing up the ground and destroying the legacy of Goldwater and Reagan.

However, that plaintiveness turns into the rage that drives the ping list...until McCain is finally removed.

196 posted on 02/02/2009 7:58:13 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

With McCain pushing for earmark reform in the bill, it seems likely he’ll support the whole thing, given his obsession with earmarks. I bet I’m not the only one who finds McCain’s earmark obsession strange and maybe sinister given what a miniscule part of the federal budget earmarks comprise (about $20 billion / year). It’s not that I condone this porkbarrelling; certainly I condemn it. But when he flogs that issue while supporting the Bailout and every kind of huge entitlement, I have to suspect he’s using earmark reform as a diversion, to win votes as a supposed conservative hero, while being anything but that.


197 posted on 02/02/2009 8:07:06 PM PST by Mogwai ("... merely the ravings of a maniac...")
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To: rabscuttle385
What I wanted was for the Republican Party to stop serving up sh*t

Right...you've voted for president what? Once? Twice? Your analogy carries the weight of a college student attempting to drum up analogies in analogy class.

and telling me to eat it with my bare hands

Cliché class is paying off.

198 posted on 02/02/2009 8:16:15 PM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Bokababe
And I agree completely -- I used the word "statist" far too loosely in that context. These are obviously not nationalists, because as you pointed out they could care less about our sovereignty or anyone else's. My intention was that they lean toward totalitarianism, but I was unclear.

Not exactly, as the term applies in both senses, albeit the "New World Order" shtick causes the NeoCon statists to be in favor of a single global state- with corporations at the top of the heap, I suspect.

Far be it from me to skool you Bokababe, we agree right down the line on most things, and on this too, as it turns out (no surprises there, huh?)... :D

199 posted on 02/02/2009 8:17:02 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Good question. He AND Kyl AND Hatch AND Bennett all voted for Holder.


200 posted on 02/02/2009 8:17:46 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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