Beam me to Planet Gore !
A million pyjama bloggers getting ready to press submit.
Which record? they have a record of earth going back 6 billion years?
Me thinks not
I want what these people are smoking.
Who are you going to believe, me or your chattering teeth?
I thought this was already debunked. That they were using previous months of data for some Russian temps instead of the real temps.
Claims of the "Earth" or "Global" are totally off base as they don't measure the temperature of the solid part of the earth, nor much of the ocean volumes. The Earth is cooling as the core continues to lose heat to the surface.
In coming years there will be additional sub-prime markets to cleanup, including thousands of scientists:
“The Global Warming Scientist (aka: Grant Whore) Reimbursement Act of 2012.”
Where as, ‘global warming’ has been debunked, and, the tax payer of the was mislead to believe they needed to know the effect of ‘global warming’ on the Alabama wood tick, among thousands of similarly frivolous studies. The PHD Grantees will, starting in 2012, reimburse the government 5% percent annually by seeking honest work, such as teaching -at least 14 hours per week.
Let’s say that they really are correct. that last year really is the eighth warmest year.
Does this mean anything? Can they tell me what 7 years beat last year? i’d like to see it. I’d like to see how the last 50 years ranked in the “warmest” list.
And finally, I don’t believe they know what they are talking about when they say last year was the eighth warmest.
prove it.
Even if this is true, there's no credible reason to believe it has anything to do with CO2, especially that minute amount released through human activity.
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD
ABSTRACT:
"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.
Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.
If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red, CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation/ice-age periods. Look carefully at this historical relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually *followed* temperature increases -lagging behind by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore continually and dishonestly claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had ever led to increased warming, at least not when the levels were within 10-15 times of what they are today. -ETL
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
Hadn’t they already proved that 1998 was the last hottest year and that it has been dropping over the last 10 years? So now it is going back up again, and now for sure. How come the glacial ice is back to 1979 levels?
8th warmest compared to when??
somehow I don’t think they measured the temps around the world’s oceans and had temp data of every city 100 yrs ago.
Climate change is the same as weather. wait a day, the weather will change..........duhhhhhhh calling Al gorbinsky.
“The earth.....has a feeeeeever....”
Notice the disclaimers. They must have conveniently left out Nov and Dec. They will revise the numbers when no one is watching and it will appear as a footnote at the bottom of the right side column below the University of Liverpool ad.
Probably just more junk science where they use July and August temperatures to fill in for November and December so they would have these figures ready for Obama’s Inaugural Extravaganzaa. What a crock!
they will tweak until they get the result they want....
I also highly doubt any accurate measure of ocean temperatures existed or was carried out over a hundred years ago..
as Glenn Beck says....."common sense"...and my common sense as well as my thermometer tells me that we had at least 3 -10F temps overnight in December and the heaviest record snowfall.....
2008 was the 8th wettest year in phx.
I wonder where it ranks in the Coldness scale?
Reference bump for those pyjama bloggers who have already arrived and for my brainwashed little sister - ;-)
I don’t know about you all, but I could use a little ‘global warming’ about now.