Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 01/18/2009 7:45:27 PM PST by dila813
The year 2008 tied with 2001 as the eighth warmest year on record for the Earth, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures through December, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. For December alone, the month also ranked as the eighth warmest globally, for the combined land and ocean surface temperature. The assessment is based on records dating back to 1880.
The analyses in NCDC’s global reports are based on preliminary data, which are subject to revision. Additional quality control is applied to the data when late reports are received several weeks after the end of the month and as increased scientific methods improve NCDC’s processing algorithms.
NCDC’s ranking of 2008 as the eighth warmest year compares to a ranking of ninth warmest based on an analysis by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. The NOAA and NASA analyses differ slightly in methodology, but both use data from NOAA's National Climatic Data Center – the federal government's official source for climate data.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...
A million pyjama bloggers getting ready to press submit.
Which record? they have a record of earth going back 6 billion years?
Me thinks not
I want what these people are smoking.
Sssshhhhh! Be vewy vewy quiet. I’m hunting a twillion dollar tax hike....
Who are you going to believe, me or your chattering teeth?
I thought this was already debunked. That they were using previous months of data for some Russian temps instead of the real temps.
Claims of the "Earth" or "Global" are totally off base as they don't measure the temperature of the solid part of the earth, nor much of the ocean volumes. The Earth is cooling as the core continues to lose heat to the surface.
They just republished it. Yes, the other one was debunked as not being official, but this is the official result.
In coming years there will be additional sub-prime markets to cleanup, including thousands of scientists:
“The Global Warming Scientist (aka: Grant Whore) Reimbursement Act of 2012.”
Where as, ‘global warming’ has been debunked, and, the tax payer of the was mislead to believe they needed to know the effect of ‘global warming’ on the Alabama wood tick, among thousands of similarly frivolous studies. The PHD Grantees will, starting in 2012, reimburse the government 5% percent annually by seeking honest work, such as teaching -at least 14 hours per week.
Let’s say that they really are correct. that last year really is the eighth warmest year.
Does this mean anything? Can they tell me what 7 years beat last year? i’d like to see it. I’d like to see how the last 50 years ranked in the “warmest” list.
And finally, I don’t believe they know what they are talking about when they say last year was the eighth warmest.
prove it.
What they are saying is that 2008 is the COLDEST YEAR since the initiation of full satellite measurement of Earth's temperature.
It's getting colder and NASA can't quite say it ~ but we can ~ IT'S GETTING COLDER.
NOTE: You have to recall that Hansen DROPPED all the measurements in Africa and South America when he was pressed to the wall on the question of their "quality" ~ which was non-existent.
He said "Well, you know this will make things seem even warmer".
What he missed in doing that was the cool, dry period in the Southern Hemisphere that resultedin a world shortage of wheat and other grains.
To save face Hansen was willing to ignore the sort of weather that drives FAMINE.
What a putz.
I’d be interested to see where their thermometers were when they recorded this, was they next to concrete etc.
Here in north east FL it has been freezing and Nov was really bad for us here what with the frost an all.
slightly off note my oldest came home from school and said he asked the teacher who was harping about global warming.
the first question was Sir the Arctic might be getting smalled but how do you explain the Antarctic getting bigger.
Here is the teachers response.
“Well Matthew the glaciers are getting bigger but the snow is melting”
end quote
Second question was Sir how do you explain the earth warming after the ice age and how the UK had grapes growing back then when we did not have cars and factories.
Teacher ignored the question and refused to let my son ask any more.
So I still wait as my son does why the earth warmed after the ice age and why we have gone though 12 climatic changes in the past with out having cars, factories etc
Even if this is true, there's no credible reason to believe it has anything to do with CO2, especially that minute amount released through human activity.
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD
ABSTRACT:
"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.
Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.
If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red, CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation/ice-age periods. Look carefully at this historical relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually *followed* temperature increases -lagging behind by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore continually and dishonestly claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had ever led to increased warming, at least not when the levels were within 10-15 times of what they are today. -ETL
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
Hadn’t they already proved that 1998 was the last hottest year and that it has been dropping over the last 10 years? So now it is going back up again, and now for sure. How come the glacial ice is back to 1979 levels?
8th warmest compared to when??
somehow I don’t think they measured the temps around the world’s oceans and had temp data of every city 100 yrs ago.
Climate change is the same as weather. wait a day, the weather will change..........duhhhhhhh calling Al gorbinsky.
Obama is going to distort the market for windmills
“The earth.....has a feeeeeever....”
Notice the disclaimers. They must have conveniently left out Nov and Dec. They will revise the numbers when no one is watching and it will appear as a footnote at the bottom of the right side column below the University of Liverpool ad.
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