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Absolutely disgusting what Britain has turned into. Unfortunately, a lot of people in the US want us to be more like them. No thanks!
1 posted on 01/01/2009 8:11:15 AM PST by NoGrayZone
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National “Health Care” at its best. Yes, I said at its best. It only goes downhill from there.


2 posted on 01/01/2009 8:13:30 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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In all of these articles about this subject, they never mention the nature of the victim’s disability, only that he was “disabled.”

Shoddy reporting.


3 posted on 01/01/2009 8:13:52 AM PST by bolobaby
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Oh Man!! How often does this happen when it’s not recorded? The fruits of Darwinism.


4 posted on 01/01/2009 8:14:31 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: NoGrayZone

File this under, another reason not to believe government and the people it employs, will act in your best interests.


7 posted on 01/01/2009 8:19:02 AM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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The microphone is always on, right Jesse?
8 posted on 01/01/2009 8:21:20 AM PST by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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Absolutely disgusting what Britain has turned into.
Unfortunately, a lot of people in the US want us to be more like them.
No thanks!

Unfortunately, it’s already here in the USA.
It just hasn’t fulling rolled downhill from Professors like Peter Singer
of Princeton U. to the average working Joe/Josephine.

Of course, Singer is something of a hypocrite...and it’s a good thing
his mother (afflicted with Alzheimers) is well-cared for by her son.
And Singer hasn’t (yet) decided his mum’s “quality of life” is so
low that she should be euthanized.


12 posted on 01/01/2009 8:24:14 AM PST by VOA
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Universal Health Care coming to U.S. too!

Thanks Obama and dems! But of course federal and many state government employees are covered for life (w/COLA adjustments) under a different program than the average citizen can get or afford if we could buy it.

14 posted on 01/01/2009 8:26:39 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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When BO’s government “healthcare” is instituted this will be standard procedure.


16 posted on 01/01/2009 8:28:49 AM PST by G Larry (BarackÂ’s character has been molded by extremists)
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Once one group of people is determined to not have the right to life, it's not a real big step to deny that right to others who can be described as "useless eaters".

And it won't stop with just infants or the disabled, either.

19 posted on 01/01/2009 8:30:37 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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I have made it perfectly clear to ALL people in my life, but just in case.....

NO GRAY ZONE WANTS TO LIVE. Don’t let ANYONE pull my plug!!!!


23 posted on 01/01/2009 8:38:56 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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The Daily Mail gives more detail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103209/Pictured-The-disabled-man-left-die-paramedics-wasnt-worth-saving.html

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The two ambulancemen who reached Barry Baker and found him unconscious are said to have been caught on tape discussing not bothering to revive him.

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Minutes later astonished dispatch centre staff heard their crew enter the house, apparently making disparaging comments about the state of the home.

A police source, who asked not to be named, said the ambulancemen were then heard over the phone discussing Mr Baker and allegedly saying ‘words to the effect that he was not worth saving’.

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Mr Baker, who used sticks to walk after having hip replacement operations, made a 999 call in the early hours of November 29. He told the controller he had severe chest pains and the ambulance crew from Brighton was immediately sent to his home.

-snip-


There’s more at the link, including photos.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen this despicable attitude expressed time and time again by people who claim they “wouldn’t want to live like that.” Their answer is never to help improve the quality of the person’s life, but to end it by the most efficient means available.


27 posted on 01/01/2009 8:46:48 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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Decisions as to who lives and who dies are made every day in countries with nationalized health care.


35 posted on 01/01/2009 8:58:26 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Maybe a bunch of us should get together and “make the call” on ethically challenged EMTs. Do we need EMTs that disabled? I think not. Heart attack? For the ethically challenged, let's “let ‘em go”.
37 posted on 01/01/2009 9:01:43 AM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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My son's brother-in-law is a doctor and has been in Victoria, BC for about six months now doing a Fellowship (IIRC).
He said their HC system is as bad or worse than he ever heard or even imagined.
With regard to just living there day-to-day he said, "Being Canadian means standing in line."


39 posted on 01/01/2009 9:05:39 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Medics Caught on Tape Allegedly Decided Disabled Man Not Worth Saving

I don't see what the big deal is here.(3)

These two *Undocumented Doctors* (Medics) where just doing what actual MDs do every day under 'England's' socialized medicine - oops National Healthcare Service Trust. They were proactive and performed 'Triage'(1)(2) to save the NHS trust a ton of money it doesn't have.

Triage
(1) The determination of priorities for action in an emergency. A system used to allocate a scarce commodity, such as food, only to those capable of deriving the greatest benefit from it.
(2) Triage is also performed every Friday Night in Big City Trauma Centers across the USA when the natives go on drive-by killing sprees or after a major fire or accident.
(3) sarcasm / OFF

43 posted on 01/01/2009 9:14:28 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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Didn’t hear this.

Was the guy long dead when they got there?


46 posted on 01/01/2009 9:29:51 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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This is the outcome of a public policy that doesn’t firmly state that all life is of equal value. The left is so vulnerable in this way - they preach advocacy for the disabled yet they promote aborting babies who are less then perfect. Couple this with “right to die” activists, and it’s clear that respect for human life is diminishing.


49 posted on 01/01/2009 9:37:04 AM PST by ElayneJ
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This also illustrates the problem with people not having children and trusting the care in their old age to hired professionals who will never care about them as much as family might have. That wasn’t a problem when families remained geographically close and those who chose not to have children had brothers and sisters and nephews and nieces to keep an eye on them when they got old but small families don’t afford as many people that luxury.


50 posted on 01/01/2009 9:39:25 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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As Social Security and Medi-Care money dries up, boomers reach retirement and avg life span increases there will be a louder call to examine the elderly’s quality of life and effect on society. Yearly exams can lead to fast euthanasia.


51 posted on 01/01/2009 9:39:34 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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60 posted on 01/01/2009 10:32:30 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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